[MD] Why does Pirsig write everybody's right about mind and matter although his theses imply the opposite?

Adrie Kintziger parser666 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 22 08:47:28 PDT 2016


the moq is not intended as a derivative of theistic idealism.


2016-10-22 17:34 GMT+02:00 Tuukka Virtaperko <mail at tuukkavirtaperko.net>:

> Dan, all,
>
> I wish to provide maximum clarity for my argument. The argument is about
> the logical consistency and logical implications of LC RMP annotation 67.
> The annotation includes the following statement:
>
> MOQ idealism: "The MOQ says that Quality comes first, which produces
> ideas, which produce what we know as matter."
>
> The concept of Quality is undefined. The notions of logical consistency
> and logical implications can only be applied to defined concepts. They
> cannot be applied to the concept of Quality. Therefore, even though MOQ
> idealism includes the concept of Quality, the notion of MOQ idealism is
> logically equivalent to the ordinary notion of idealism.
>
> MOQ materialism: "However, as if to further the confusion, the MOQ says
> that the idea that matter comes first is a high quality idea!"
>
> The MOQ classifies materialism as a good idea. But this implies that the
> MOQ cannot classify idealism as a good idea unless the MOQ is either
> inconsistent or not a single metaphysics.
>
> If the MOQ is inconsistent it doesn't solve any metaphysical problem. So
> we shall assume that the MOQ is consistent.
>
> If the MOQ isn't a single metaphysics it doesn't solve the mind-matter
> problem but instead merely reports that the problem exists. However, Pirsig
> thinks the MOQ solves the mind-matter problem. If this is true, the MOQ is
> a single metaphysics. So we shall assume that the MOQ is a single
> metaphysics.
>
> Therefore, idealism must belong to the context of not-good ideas.
>
> But the MOQ subscribes to idealism.
>
> Therefore, the MOQ is not a good idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tuk
>
>
>
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