[MD] Rhetoric

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> On Jan 3, 2017, at 6:03 PM, ngriffis <ngriffis at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> It is ironic that this chat room is based on the philosophy of quality, as
> defined by Persig. 
> 
>    Please, take a step away and let us talk about how someone, who
> believes in MOQ, applies these same principles to their lives. I once asked
> this board how they used the principals in their daily challenge to live
> their life qualitatively. You guys were off and running onto something else,
> but now I think it a good time to ask the question again. How do the
> participants of this board use what they learned from Persig to make their
> lives better?
> 
>    I have my faults. Everyone does. We are humans, but Persig pointed
> out a guide to a better way. I think that is why all of us are here talking
> about Zen and Art of MM, and Lila. He brought the idea of Quality to our
> attention. But, Quality and Persig's message is useless if we do not utilize
> the principles introduced.
> 
>    Here is another question for the circle. Where in ZMM does it speak
> to how to apply and seek Quality in one's life? What does it say about
> solving some of the basic and perennial human problems that we get caught in
> over and over again? 
> 
> Dolphin,
In ZMM, if you remember the passages about gumption traps and how the shop mechanics did a really poor job "fixing"
Robert Pirsigs motorcycle because they didn't care about what they were doing,
Then part of your inquiry has already been answered.
Personally 
I do not "believe" in "the MOQ", I think it's an inaccuracy to approach RMPs work in that fashion. What I have gained from Robert Pirsigs work and from this community of contributors is the love of critical thinking.

I apply the skills I've learned everyday in my environment and this has improved my life greatly. I am aware of traditional logic traps and how to recognize and avoid them.

But basically Bob instilled in me a love for wisdom.

As for Tuk, he was here with an agenda.
He wields the tools of philosophy as a weapon. Rather carelessly I might add.

-Ron

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