[MD] Rest In Peace Mr Pirsig

Mon May 1 12:29:59 PDT 2017

greetings...

Not so many people are  fully aware of the aestethic  form's in Mr Pirsigs
work.But they are there.Not as an aspect, but as a core theme.
It is however difficult to peel it out of the onion so to speak.
One needs background in philosophy, and a lot of comparative skills,
combined with a sharp mind. As i'm not a native speaker in English,i would
suggest to read the work of people with high profile skills in both
philosophy
and aestetics.So i will provide a suggestion about a work of great
importance
(it should be mandatory for Pirsig fan's),and mighty comparative skills.

https://books.google.be/books?id=YLEfDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=aesthetics+pirsig&source=bl&ots=r6TZX33brX&sig=4PJ6V4Xwrb44dSG2Kltif_PK7ys&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHvtfUrs_TAhWIbVAKHYSDA2IQ6AEIYjAJ#v=onepage&q=aesthetics%20pirsig&f=false

One should be able to read it there, and it can be purchased.
It won't come cheap. Quality has a price.
To be clear this is the title.

' Tragic beauty in Whitehead and Japanese Aestetics.'
By Steve Odin. If you take a quick peak the pages from 123 en further
should be of interest to you.(And all Pirsig fan's).

I do not really know about Sephardic and other Jewish traditions.
But i live near Antwerp.,(30 min), and it is full of Jews there.
Diamont trade you know.

A bit more moq in our everyday's life.....if you read the book on the
provided link it will start coming naturally.

Adrie

2017-05-01 16:43 GMT+02:00 Albert Mezistrano <albertstrano at gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
> I'm planning on writing an article on aestheticism in the (Sephardic)
> Jewish tradition. As a part of it, I plan on comparing it to an MoQ
> perspective and pay a small tribute to Pirsig's life (to a crowd more or
> less unfamiliar). Does anyone know where he discusses aestheticism? Would
> you happen to have any quotes in mind?
>
> Thank you, and may we all try to integrate a little more MoQ in our
> everyday lives this month especially.
>
> Cheer,
> Albert
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Francisco Albano <obsculta57 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Rest in peace RMP. You have helped me/us consider life and static
> patterns
> > of value/quality/worth, according to the standard of experienceable
> Dynamic
> > Quality. Ad altiora, you urge us, for greater service to our brothers and
> > sisters. . . .
> >  "El Senor te bendiga y te guarde;
> > el Senor te mire con agrado y te extienda su amor;
> > el Senor te muestre su favor y te conceda la paz."
> >                                           (Numeros 6:24-26)
> >
> >     On Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:00 PM, Adrie Kintziger <
> > parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Great words indeed , Dan,and it matters to write them.
> > And you did a great job to write and compile Lila's child.It is an
> > important addition.It is a privilege to have worked with Mr Pirsig
> himself,
> > even via multiple rounds of mails.Probably the amount of work to plough
> > along the archives was not to be underestimated.Equally important was the
> > endevour
> > not to change Pirsig toughts.You kept it intact along the path.
> > Very nice to hear that it induced you to become an author yourself.
> >
> > Adrie
> >
> >
> > 2017-04-27 9:29 GMT+02:00 Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I'm thinking how in 1974 I found this book with a funny title clinging
> > > to one of those metal racks they used to store books on. You know. The
> > > kind that you could spin around to see all of the titles available. Do
> > > they still have them? Maybe they do. I hope so. I haven't been in a
> > > bookstore for like the next thing to forever what with Amazon and all.
> > > If I remember right I found the book in a grocery store by the
> > > checkout aisle. A store that closed a long long time ago. That was
> > > back before they had Walmarts and box stores on every corner and you'd
> > > go down to the local neighborhood grocery and buy your milk and bread
> > > and sometimes a book or two if you had enough money. I think it cost a
> > > buck ninety five but can't remember for sure. Thereabouts, anyhow. It
> > > was by an author I'd never heard of before and yeah I thought I could
> > > well be wasting my money but the book called to me.
> > >
> > > I spent the next week maybe two reading the book mostly while sitting
> > > at a picnic table that sorely needed paint down at the park (under
> > > majestic oak trees that would be uprooted the following year when an
> > > F-5 tornado plowed through) over numerous bottles of cheap but
> > > exceedingly potent wine and to say I was taken aback is a bit of a
> > > misnomer. I'd up till that time read lots of books by many different
> > > writers but absolutely none like that. The author seemed to be saying
> > > something important but I couldn't quite say exactly what. Hell. I'd
> > > never been to college. Never even finished high school. I had no way
> > > of relating to what the author was going on about what with Aristotle
> > > and Chautauquas and dripping faucets and yet I understood on some
> > > visceral level that hey maybe there might just be more to life than
> > > hanging out in bars and partying until the moon said goodnight and
> > > consorting with others of low repute like me.
> > >
> > > I'd like to say the book completely changed my life. How I mended my
> > > wayward ways, quit drinking and partying, went back to school, and
> > > made something of myself. Only I didn't. It didn't. The book. Someone
> > > saw it sitting on my shelf one day and asked to borrow it and I said
> > > here knowing I'd never get it back and how they wouldn't read it
> > > because they thought it was about motorcycle maintenance and I knew it
> > > wasn't. Instead, the years drifted by each one moving a little faster
> > > than the last like maybe I was falling head first into an unseen black
> > > hole  and me getting stretched out a little more with every passing
> > > moment and then one day I noticed whenever I started into reading the
> > > obituaries, a morbid habit I do not recommend, about my old friends
> > > one by one and how they ended their lives in pretty much the same
> > > ignominious fashion. The obits always read how they lived their life
> > > on their own terms and how they died doing what they loved. I wondered
> > > if they really loved drowning in their own vomit all that much. I sort
> > > of doubted it but hey. Who knows.
> > >
> > > Then I wake up one morning with some biker-looking chick I never saw
> > > before lying in bed beside me and I'm fairly sure if I lift the covers
> > > and look she'll be naked because yep I am and there're empty gin and
> > > whiskey and beer bottles strewn about the house interspersed with
> > > cheap but potent and exceedingly empty wine bottles and me hung over
> > > like a mofo as usual, head pounding stomach queasy eyes like
> > > sandpaper, and it is 1995 and I'm forty-something instead of
> > > twenty-something and when I stumble to the bathroom to puke and happen
> > > to glance into the mirror to make sure I don't have any on me my beard
> > > is no longer a crisp black but rapidly turning white and the same with
> > > my hair. Just like that. It was like I blinked. And the people I used
> > > to know are gone and I'm still living the same lame life only all the
> > > people hanging in the bars are like my kids' age and I just don't fit
> > > in any longer. So then the internet is just beginning to happen. Since
> > > there isn't much else to do I get a provider and play around with the
> > > web some but nothing really appeals all that much. Until a couple
> > > years later when someone I meet in a chatroom suggests how I might
> > > like the Lila Squad.
> > >
> > > What is the Lila Squad? I asked. Just check it out, he said. Well,
> > > okay. So I did. And lo. They're discussing a book called Lila written
> > > by the same author I read way back in 1974. I didn't realize he'd
> > > written a second novel. So I bought it. Mass-market paperback. One of
> > > my first purchases on Amazon but not the last. O.M.G. I was hooked all
> > > over again. Only those folks in the Lila Squad, well, they were like,
> > > smart. Not anything like me. All I knew how to do was talk smack. But
> > > that didn't stop me. I finished reading Lila and jumped into the fray.
> > > Some of the Lila Squad members were downright mean to me. You could
> > > even say rude. Not that I could blame them what with them being all
> > > college-educated and intelligent and doubtlessly used to going around
> > > looking and smelling and speaking lots better than I did. Most of the
> > > members ignored me. Again. Not that I could blame them. I mean,
> > > really. But a few were actually nice to me. Like they might even think
> > > I had something to say, though I pretty much figured they were simply
> > > placating me. Still. It was something to hang my battered hat upon.
> > >
> > > So if I remember right, things started getting better after that. Oh,
> > > not all at once. There were still the blackouts and mornings when I'd
> > > wake and whenever I looked my car wouldn't be in the driveway and I'd
> > > have no idea how I got home and my wallet would be empty and these
> > > strange babes would be lying in bed next to me but those mornings
> > > seemed to draw out with more days between them than before. And then a
> > > miracle happened. Honestly. It's the only way I can describe it.
> > > Bodvar Skutvik wrote to say how Robert Pirsig had discovered the book
> > > that Bo insisted I put together which I named Lila's Child and how he
> > > was making notes on it. I was pretty sure Bo was having me on. Only he
> > > swore how he wasn't. All of a sudden, a realization came over me. How
> > > I might be able to put together a  real book. Me. A low-life no count
> > > loser. So I asked Bo if he'd ask Robert Pirsig if he might want to
> > > share those notes. You know. With me. And Bo said oh no. No way, dude.
> > > Ain't gonna happen. Absolutely not. But next thing I know. Bo is
> > > writing me saying how okay whenever you finish redoing the Lila's
> > > Child manuscript (which I realized sadly needed doing) to send a copy
> > > to Robert Pirsig and he'd take a look.
> > >
> > > All of a sudden, I had a purpose. Thank you, Robert Pirsig.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
> > > > Hi All
> > > >
> > > > Many of you will have heard by now that Robert Pirsig passed away on
> > > Monday
> > > > 24th April 2017.
> > > > My apologies for not posting sooner.
> > > > If you wish to leave any thoughts about Mr Pirsig then please feel
> free
> > > to
> > > > post here.
> > > >
> > > > My own thoughts are that I am proud to have helped, even in a small
> > way,
> > > to
> > > > get Pirsig's message out to the world.
> > > > I know that he used to read our discussions on these lists and was
> > > pleased
> > > > that there were so many people involved over the years.
> > > > Robert Pirsig made a difference to our world and made it a better
> world
> > > with
> > > > his work and his presence.
> > > > I will miss him greatly.
> > > >
> > > > Horse
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
> > > moments
> > > > that take our breath away."
> > > > — Bob Moorehead
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