[MD] Rest In Peace Mr Pirsig

Albert Mezistrano albertstrano at gmail.com
Mon May 1 07:43:28 PDT 2017


Hi all,
I'm planning on writing an article on aestheticism in the (Sephardic)
Jewish tradition. As a part of it, I plan on comparing it to an MoQ
perspective and pay a small tribute to Pirsig's life (to a crowd more or
less unfamiliar). Does anyone know where he discusses aestheticism? Would
you happen to have any quotes in mind?

Thank you, and may we all try to integrate a little more MoQ in our
everyday lives this month especially.

Cheer,
Albert

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Francisco Albano <obsculta57 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Rest in peace RMP. You have helped me/us consider life and static patterns
> of value/quality/worth, according to the standard of experienceable Dynamic
> Quality. Ad altiora, you urge us, for greater service to our brothers and
> sisters. . . .
>  "El Senor te bendiga y te guarde;
> el Senor te mire con agrado y te extienda su amor;
> el Senor te muestre su favor y te conceda la paz."
>                                           (Numeros 6:24-26)
>
>     On Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:00 PM, Adrie Kintziger <
> parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Great words indeed , Dan,and it matters to write them.
> And you did a great job to write and compile Lila's child.It is an
> important addition.It is a privilege to have worked with Mr Pirsig himself,
> even via multiple rounds of mails.Probably the amount of work to plough
> along the archives was not to be underestimated.Equally important was the
> endevour
> not to change Pirsig toughts.You kept it intact along the path.
> Very nice to hear that it induced you to become an author yourself.
>
> Adrie
>
>
> 2017-04-27 9:29 GMT+02:00 Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>:
>
> > I'm thinking how in 1974 I found this book with a funny title clinging
> > to one of those metal racks they used to store books on. You know. The
> > kind that you could spin around to see all of the titles available. Do
> > they still have them? Maybe they do. I hope so. I haven't been in a
> > bookstore for like the next thing to forever what with Amazon and all.
> > If I remember right I found the book in a grocery store by the
> > checkout aisle. A store that closed a long long time ago. That was
> > back before they had Walmarts and box stores on every corner and you'd
> > go down to the local neighborhood grocery and buy your milk and bread
> > and sometimes a book or two if you had enough money. I think it cost a
> > buck ninety five but can't remember for sure. Thereabouts, anyhow. It
> > was by an author I'd never heard of before and yeah I thought I could
> > well be wasting my money but the book called to me.
> >
> > I spent the next week maybe two reading the book mostly while sitting
> > at a picnic table that sorely needed paint down at the park (under
> > majestic oak trees that would be uprooted the following year when an
> > F-5 tornado plowed through) over numerous bottles of cheap but
> > exceedingly potent wine and to say I was taken aback is a bit of a
> > misnomer. I'd up till that time read lots of books by many different
> > writers but absolutely none like that. The author seemed to be saying
> > something important but I couldn't quite say exactly what. Hell. I'd
> > never been to college. Never even finished high school. I had no way
> > of relating to what the author was going on about what with Aristotle
> > and Chautauquas and dripping faucets and yet I understood on some
> > visceral level that hey maybe there might just be more to life than
> > hanging out in bars and partying until the moon said goodnight and
> > consorting with others of low repute like me.
> >
> > I'd like to say the book completely changed my life. How I mended my
> > wayward ways, quit drinking and partying, went back to school, and
> > made something of myself. Only I didn't. It didn't. The book. Someone
> > saw it sitting on my shelf one day and asked to borrow it and I said
> > here knowing I'd never get it back and how they wouldn't read it
> > because they thought it was about motorcycle maintenance and I knew it
> > wasn't. Instead, the years drifted by each one moving a little faster
> > than the last like maybe I was falling head first into an unseen black
> > hole  and me getting stretched out a little more with every passing
> > moment and then one day I noticed whenever I started into reading the
> > obituaries, a morbid habit I do not recommend, about my old friends
> > one by one and how they ended their lives in pretty much the same
> > ignominious fashion. The obits always read how they lived their life
> > on their own terms and how they died doing what they loved. I wondered
> > if they really loved drowning in their own vomit all that much. I sort
> > of doubted it but hey. Who knows.
> >
> > Then I wake up one morning with some biker-looking chick I never saw
> > before lying in bed beside me and I'm fairly sure if I lift the covers
> > and look she'll be naked because yep I am and there're empty gin and
> > whiskey and beer bottles strewn about the house interspersed with
> > cheap but potent and exceedingly empty wine bottles and me hung over
> > like a mofo as usual, head pounding stomach queasy eyes like
> > sandpaper, and it is 1995 and I'm forty-something instead of
> > twenty-something and when I stumble to the bathroom to puke and happen
> > to glance into the mirror to make sure I don't have any on me my beard
> > is no longer a crisp black but rapidly turning white and the same with
> > my hair. Just like that. It was like I blinked. And the people I used
> > to know are gone and I'm still living the same lame life only all the
> > people hanging in the bars are like my kids' age and I just don't fit
> > in any longer. So then the internet is just beginning to happen. Since
> > there isn't much else to do I get a provider and play around with the
> > web some but nothing really appeals all that much. Until a couple
> > years later when someone I meet in a chatroom suggests how I might
> > like the Lila Squad.
> >
> > What is the Lila Squad? I asked. Just check it out, he said. Well,
> > okay. So I did. And lo. They're discussing a book called Lila written
> > by the same author I read way back in 1974. I didn't realize he'd
> > written a second novel. So I bought it. Mass-market paperback. One of
> > my first purchases on Amazon but not the last. O.M.G. I was hooked all
> > over again. Only those folks in the Lila Squad, well, they were like,
> > smart. Not anything like me. All I knew how to do was talk smack. But
> > that didn't stop me. I finished reading Lila and jumped into the fray.
> > Some of the Lila Squad members were downright mean to me. You could
> > even say rude. Not that I could blame them what with them being all
> > college-educated and intelligent and doubtlessly used to going around
> > looking and smelling and speaking lots better than I did. Most of the
> > members ignored me. Again. Not that I could blame them. I mean,
> > really. But a few were actually nice to me. Like they might even think
> > I had something to say, though I pretty much figured they were simply
> > placating me. Still. It was something to hang my battered hat upon.
> >
> > So if I remember right, things started getting better after that. Oh,
> > not all at once. There were still the blackouts and mornings when I'd
> > wake and whenever I looked my car wouldn't be in the driveway and I'd
> > have no idea how I got home and my wallet would be empty and these
> > strange babes would be lying in bed next to me but those mornings
> > seemed to draw out with more days between them than before. And then a
> > miracle happened. Honestly. It's the only way I can describe it.
> > Bodvar Skutvik wrote to say how Robert Pirsig had discovered the book
> > that Bo insisted I put together which I named Lila's Child and how he
> > was making notes on it. I was pretty sure Bo was having me on. Only he
> > swore how he wasn't. All of a sudden, a realization came over me. How
> > I might be able to put together a  real book. Me. A low-life no count
> > loser. So I asked Bo if he'd ask Robert Pirsig if he might want to
> > share those notes. You know. With me. And Bo said oh no. No way, dude.
> > Ain't gonna happen. Absolutely not. But next thing I know. Bo is
> > writing me saying how okay whenever you finish redoing the Lila's
> > Child manuscript (which I realized sadly needed doing) to send a copy
> > to Robert Pirsig and he'd take a look.
> >
> > All of a sudden, I had a purpose. Thank you, Robert Pirsig.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Many of you will have heard by now that Robert Pirsig passed away on
> > Monday
> > > 24th April 2017.
> > > My apologies for not posting sooner.
> > > If you wish to leave any thoughts about Mr Pirsig then please feel free
> > to
> > > post here.
> > >
> > > My own thoughts are that I am proud to have helped, even in a small
> way,
> > to
> > > get Pirsig's message out to the world.
> > > I know that he used to read our discussions on these lists and was
> > pleased
> > > that there were so many people involved over the years.
> > > Robert Pirsig made a difference to our world and made it a better world
> > with
> > > his work and his presence.
> > > I will miss him greatly.
> > >
> > > Horse
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
> > moments
> > > that take our breath away."
> > > — Bob Moorehead
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