[MF] MOQ: valuable or not?

[ian glendinning]

Oh Kevin, don't get me wrong, he means what he says - I thought we
were discussing what he didn't say, why he omitted mention of certain
subjects (and I was speculating as to why)

On your additional points

Drawing "lines in the sand" between pro-MoQ'ers who implicitly find it
valuable and antis who find more to criticise than value is a
longstanding objective of mine.

One of the primary reasons I find it so valuable is precisely because
it is NOT dead or sterile, but very much alive, containing very
explicitly the means for it's own evolution (much to Bo's disgust).

Ian

On 2/21/06, Kevin Perez <juan825diego at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Ian,
>
> Interesting speculation, that Pirsig manipulated his way into the book
> stores by selling himself short.  He's purpose-driven and smart, and a
> good fighter, I'll give you that.  But I think he means what he says.  For
> Pirsig, Quality is value and nothing exists in the absence of value.
>
> As best I can figure out Dynamic Quality is some kind of creative force
> responsible for all that exists; objects, subjects, thoughts and meaning
> itself.  And static patterns of quality do not exist save for their value in
> the "eye of a beholder" be it a person, a society, a single-cell organism
> or a rock.  From this point of view it is shown that reality fits into a box
> called the Metaphysics of Quality.  This explanation brings comfort to
> some and consternation to others.
>
> I count myself in the second group.
>
> The Metaphysics of Quality is an interesting theory.  But it has a sterile
> feel about it.  Not alive.  Not dead.  But sterile, dry and empty.
>
> According to the Metaphysics of Quality, as I understand it, the
> Metaphysics of Quality exists for people who judge it to be valuable.  It
> does not exist for people who find no value in it.  What I'd be interested
> in talking about is why some people find value in it and why some people
> don't.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
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