[MF] faith, hope and love
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 28 17:03:38 PST 2006
Kevin said to Ted:
Faith, to me has more to do with how truthful and honest a person is with
themselves and the people and events in their life than with theories and
concepts. A person with strong faith is a person who has character and
integrity and knows when to check their ego. For me, a person's true self
and their faith come from the same source. And it's not the ego.
dmb says:
Yes, behold my magnificent humility. So let me get this straigt. Now having
faith means having character, integrity, humility, truthfulness and honesty?
Does that mean those of us without faith are spineless ego-maniacs who lie a
lot? If I wasn't such a genius at keeping my ego in check, I'd probably feel
a little insulted by that.
But seriously, Kevin, don't you remember my complaints about the meaning of
the term "faith"? Like I said, nobody has ever supplied me with a definition
that I could understand. And I have to say that your posts on this topic
have been no different. You've equated faith with way, Way, WAY too many
things and, oddly, almost none of them bare any relation to the
conventional, dictionary definition of the word. And don't you think its
true that things like hope, love, honesty, character and all that - don't
you think these belong to humanity rather than just Christians or other
people of faith? In fact, I think one could make a case that faith, as in
the willingness to believe certain things without any evidence or even in
the face of evidence to the contrary, is a form of self-deception. Richard
Hayes made that case in his "RITUAL, SELF-DECEPTION AND MAKE-BELIEVE: a
Classical Buddhist Perspective", if you're interested...
http://www.unm.edu/~rhayes/ritual.pdf
Thanks.
dmb
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