[MD] Intellectual and Social

[John Carl]

Marsha,

I remember a comment by John Gatto in Dumbing Us Down where he lays the
blame at the feet of two different entities - school and tv.  It has to be
one or both of those, he says, because that's really all kids get.  Those
are the two sources of values-transmission. there ain't nothin' else.

John



On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
> Hi John,
>
> It's just the the media.  I've heard professors of astrophysics and
> particle physics
> talk with a certainty that made me angry:  "This isn't just mathematics,
> it's real."
> Or I mentioned at the Hayden Planetarium Whoopi Goldberg stating "It's true
> because the scientists have discovered it to be true."  Many of these
> scientists
> seem as narrow-minded as any medieval church Inquisitor.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:59 PM, John Carl wrote:
>
> >> [Arlo]
> >> As with all theories, those who hold them understand they are metaphors,
> >> analogies, descriptions that best serve to illuminate the unseeable
> Void.
> >
> >
> > Ok Arlo, I'm gonna lay out for you my particular rant now.  Pay close
> > attention and please don't jump to conclusions based on past arguments
> with
> > others.  I'm certainly not a knee-jerk talk show follower, ok?
> >
> > The fact that those who hold the theories understand them to be just
> that,
> > is true.  But the way it works in the modern age, intellectualism takes a
> > diabolical twist.  Because the theoretical knowledge, gleaned by
> analytical
> > minds, is encapsulated and transmitted via powerful media imagery into
> the
> > homes of millions, and these millions don't really think through the
> > philosophical underpinnings of theory and analogistic ways of thinking.
> > They pretty much take what they see as truth.  They conflate the image
> with
> > the word, they confuse the reality they see (an artificial construct) as
> the
> > same thing as "the truth of the experts".  They believe they understand
> the
> > origins of life, the universe and everything.
> >
> >
> > Ellul helped me to see all this, and he points to the culprit as the
> CHURCH
> > that started it all.  The medieval church with its icons and painted
> > representation, heck, even the crucifix, all this imagery was constructed
> to
> > impress upon the minds of the masses the hidden priestly truths of the
> > bible, a seeingly noble and efficient means but unfortunately, expressly
> > forbidden by the same tome they touted.
> >
> > Read the second commandment sometime in a non-catholic bible.
> >
> > They did far more damage to society than Aristotle, for nowadays this
> > technique is unleashed upon a supposedly democratic nation, with the
> result
> > being the deluded and ignorant masses see something on tv, they don't
> take
> > it analogistically, they take it as reality itself.    And this has worse
> > effects than cosmological ignorance.  It's got great political
> significance.
> >
> >
> > I'd feel sorry for most of them, but Krimel really oughta know better.
> >
> > Honestly, when he mentioned watching Nova, I literally fell on the floor
> > laughing.
> >
> > John, eschewer of the glowing idol of the AwDga cult
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