[MD] Muslim Mechanisms

[John Carl]

Khaled,

Your point about the comparison of treatment with American Indians was well
taken and well timed, as I was just writing on the subject at another
mailing list I'm on, a pretty quiet one, so far, but three messages this
morning (people4dqu at yahoo.com is the list - open to all and if anyone
wonders about D-Q University, that's where I focus my words on THAT
subject)  so I appreciate your comparison, and your historical points.

If I could go back in time and give advice to the Native American World and
the Muslim World, it'd be on this one point you make:

The Muslim and Arab world was looking to the west for help, support,
> direction and as a model example to what to strive for.
>
>
How has that worked out?  And I say the same to American Indians, who also
adopted the accoutrement of the SOMish paradigm, because it promises (and
delivers) great power and material prosperity -  How has that worked out?
  The snake promised godlike powers, but took away  innocence and purity.





> that revolution was not meant to turn the country into a theocracy.
>
>
heh-heh, many a slip twixt the cup and the lip, as I tell all my
power-mongering hegemonic empire builders.



> That is not to say that some of you said is not true or does not have
> it's merits. Then again, how many treaties did we sign with the Indians
> only to keep breaking them. To this day, some of those treaties have not
> been settled.
>
>

Well to be honest, my main point is the one about the long-term breeding of
an Idiocracy.

"m"oqism is more about analyzing society in terms of real value - and I find
it fascinating that the western intellectual stopped procreating about 30
years ago, American and European - heck, and Japanese for that matter.  Even
China has an ongoing and looming problem with their strict
population-control agenda, so it's not just the west, its industrialized
civilization where we define over-population by "I can't find a parking
space at WalMart".  Whereas in reality, population problems are not cause
the quantity of people.  Population problems are caused by the quality of
people.  And we've produced an entire generation of non-productive, in terms
of actual real productivity - making or growing real goods - people without
any idea that their life should produce useful worth to the mother earth
which birthed them.  People with a purely victim mentality at the root of
their being.  People who have abandoned morality in the service of hedonism,
and then cry foul because they see themselves being swamped by a competing
society.

You're right Khaled.  It is funny. Funnier even than I realized.

John




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