[MD] until death do us part

[John Carl]

To a certain extent, this question smacks of "should geese fly and mate for
life?"

 Does marriage have enough goodness to make its survival/improvement worth
> an effort?
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For some animals, pair bonding is instinctive.  For some humans too, and you
can't change that.  Even biological imperatives are mute in the face of the
strong instinct to socially herd.  Otherwise there wouldn't really be any
issues known as "gay marriage".

What I mean by that is, the biological urge to procreate doesn't have
anything to do with a couple of men or a couple of women deciding to
pair-bond, and imo, social recognition by a church or county recorder has
nothing to do with it either.

Geese and coyotes are gonna pair up for life.  No matter what the state or
the church or intellect decide.  Same with humans.  We must decide what our
true nature tells us, and follow that, regardless of any intellectual
reasoning.

Having said that, I want to add that its an interesting discussion and I'm
glad you brought it up, Marsha.  I was thinking that there's one persistent
pattern I observe and would like to comment upon:  where a wife divorces her
husband for committing adultery with a younger woman.  This after about 20
years of marriage.  That always seemed really stupid to me and playing right
into the hands of the older male who is freed to pursue younger women while
the wife gets a punative settlement that leaves them both poorer.

Far more sensible than divorcing a wayward husband would be to stay married
to him and make his life a sort of hell, in the ways only a truly
experienced wife knows how to do.  And men are manipuable enough by women
through guilt that this wouldn't be difficult to accomplish by an
experienced wife.

Of course, many times this isn't an option because the guy just leaves, but
lotsa times I see it where in a fit of pique, out of a misplaced pride,
women really screw themselves over to make a point.

Which is weird, since on the whole I consider them the far more sensible of
the sexes.  I guess it's just one of those times chicks have a hard time
bein' rational.  What do you think, Marsha?

John of the coyote nature