[MD] Individual v Collective

[ian glendinning]

Hi SA ,

(and Squonk, I'll come back later when I've had a bit more thinking
time on the socio-intellectual bit.)

SA, I think I saw the set of threads on the individual / collective
... it led me to the Randian "selfishness" discussion ... I didn't
dive in there because as you point out the polarisation of one
"versus" the other, one "or" the other, is never my cup of tea. It's
an "axis" where both aspects exist ... I think I was suggesting to
Squonk that this axis may be more significant than the social -
intellectual one .... but not in any exclusive way ... "excusive-or's"
are rarely in my vocabulary. I need to consider Squonk's points in
response to this ...

Ian


On 8/14/06, Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   [Ian]  I'm forming the view that the missing axis
> is
> > individual vs collective
> > ... but it's not a well formed view yet. Either way,
> > I see a great
> > deal of cutural (social) conditioning of what we
> > (individually or
> > collectively) see as "intellectual".
>
>     That's why this individual vs. collective might
> go on and on and on if we try to split it as a "v" or
> antagonistic towards each other.  This subject is
> months old and Ian what you say above is why they
> can't split.  Any original idea such as E=mc2 is also
> built on the shoulders of giants, even Newton needed
> the Greeks, etc...  Yes, we can say Pirsig came up
> with his ideas, but without other people, Pirsig
> wouldn't have his ideas to come up with.  This is
> pretty much a summary of how this subject has pounced
> back and forth for months without having to read all
> the archives.
>
> Thank you,
> SA
>
>
>
>
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