[MD] sq social - sq intellectual

[Laycock, Jos (OSPT)]

Agreed, but the moral way to effect the change is different from the moral
way to resist the violence.

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> Subject: Re: [MD] sq social - sq intellectual
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> Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
> 
> > Unfortunatly here, the war on terror is a clash of societies. 
> > Two of Pirsig's giants are fighting and cultural patterns 
> on both sides are
> > sacrificing/devouring biological lives for their own ends. 
> > 
> > If an intellect wants to subordinate a cultural pattern it 
> should go right
> > ahead, but MOQ implies this should come from within the 
> society not without.
> > Pirsig never talks about cultural clashes or wars, so we 
> don't have clear
> > guidance.
>  
> Pirsig gives his view of cultural clashes in the following statement:
> 
> "A culture that supports the dominance of social values over 
> biological values is
> an absolutely superior culture to one that does not, and a 
> culture that supports
> the dominance of intellectual values over social values is 
> absolutely superior to
> one that does not. It is immoral to speak against a people 
> because of the color of
> their skin, or any other genetic characteristic because these 
> are not changeable
> and don't matter anyway. But it is not immoral to speak 
> against a person because
> of his cultural characteristics if those cultural 
> characteristics are immoral.
> These are changeable and they do matter." (Lila, 24)
> 
> I would submit that Islamic Fascism does not support 
> dominance of social values
> over biological values, nor does Islam support dominance of 
> intellectual values
> over social values. Thus, by terms of the MOQ moral 
> hierarchy, Western cultures
> are morally superior to Islamic cultures. Islamic cultures 
> are changeable as 
> witness the effort by many in Iraq to establish a democracy 
> where the intellectual
> values of free speech and freedom of religion from state 
> interference would 
> guaranteed by law.
> 
> Platt
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