[MD] sq social - sq intellectual

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Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:

> Agreed, but the moral way to effect the change is different from the moral
> way to resist the violence.

How so? Until the biological terrorists are defeated, change cannot take place.

 
> > -----Original Message-----

> > Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
> > 
> > > Unfortunatly here, the war on terror is a clash of societies. 
> > > Two of Pirsig's giants are fighting and cultural patterns 
> > on both sides are
> > > sacrificing/devouring biological lives for their own ends. 
> > > 
> > > If an intellect wants to subordinate a cultural pattern it 
> > should go right
> > > ahead, but MOQ implies this should come from within the 
> > society not without.
> > > Pirsig never talks about cultural clashes or wars, so we 
> > don't have clear
> > > guidance.
> >  
> > Pirsig gives his view of cultural clashes in the following statement:
> > 
> > "A culture that supports the dominance of social values over 
> > biological values is
> > an absolutely superior culture to one that does not, and a 
> > culture that supports
> > the dominance of intellectual values over social values is 
> > absolutely superior to
> > one that does not. It is immoral to speak against a people 
> > because of the color of
> > their skin, or any other genetic characteristic because these 
> > are not changeable
> > and don't matter anyway. But it is not immoral to speak 
> > against a person because
> > of his cultural characteristics if those cultural 
> > characteristics are immoral.
> > These are changeable and they do matter." (Lila, 24)
> > 
> > I would submit that Islamic Fascism does not support 
> > dominance of social values
> > over biological values, nor does Islam support dominance of 
> > intellectual values
> > over social values. Thus, by terms of the MOQ moral 
> > hierarchy, Western cultures
> > are morally superior to Islamic cultures. Islamic cultures 
> > are changeable as 
> > witness the effort by many in Iraq to establish a democracy 
> > where the intellectual
> > values of free speech and freedom of religion from state 
> > interference would 
> > guaranteed by law.
> > 
> > Platt
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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