[MD] sq social - sq intellectual
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pholden at davtv.com
Mon Aug 21 04:12:13 PDT 2006
Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
> Agreed, but the moral way to effect the change is different from the moral
> way to resist the violence.
How so? Until the biological terrorists are defeated, change cannot take place.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
> >
> > > Unfortunatly here, the war on terror is a clash of societies.
> > > Two of Pirsig's giants are fighting and cultural patterns
> > on both sides are
> > > sacrificing/devouring biological lives for their own ends.
> > >
> > > If an intellect wants to subordinate a cultural pattern it
> > should go right
> > > ahead, but MOQ implies this should come from within the
> > society not without.
> > > Pirsig never talks about cultural clashes or wars, so we
> > don't have clear
> > > guidance.
> >
> > Pirsig gives his view of cultural clashes in the following statement:
> >
> > "A culture that supports the dominance of social values over
> > biological values is
> > an absolutely superior culture to one that does not, and a
> > culture that supports
> > the dominance of intellectual values over social values is
> > absolutely superior to
> > one that does not. It is immoral to speak against a people
> > because of the color of
> > their skin, or any other genetic characteristic because these
> > are not changeable
> > and don't matter anyway. But it is not immoral to speak
> > against a person because
> > of his cultural characteristics if those cultural
> > characteristics are immoral.
> > These are changeable and they do matter." (Lila, 24)
> >
> > I would submit that Islamic Fascism does not support
> > dominance of social values
> > over biological values, nor does Islam support dominance of
> > intellectual values
> > over social values. Thus, by terms of the MOQ moral
> > hierarchy, Western cultures
> > are morally superior to Islamic cultures. Islamic cultures
> > are changeable as
> > witness the effort by many in Iraq to establish a democracy
> > where the intellectual
> > values of free speech and freedom of religion from state
> > interference would
> > guaranteed by law.
> >
> > Platt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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