[MD] Chaos and Goldilocks

[David M]

Hi Case

Surely in chaos there are no repeats and no order.
Does not order mean repeats and the same again?
Is order the re-cycling of chaos?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Chaos and Goldilocks


> [SA]
> This is what I was hoping for in the way of clarification.  What do you 
> mean
> above, when you say, "Order is a subset of Chaos."?  Do you mean, chaos is
> first, order second, in a linear concept?  Or do you mean chaos trumps
> order?  Or do you mean chaos is more important of the two, and order just
> happens to come around, as you state above, "Put simply if the universe 
> were
> totally chaotic, there is some probability that orderly states will 
> occur."?
> Or, do you also mean chaos is supreme to order?  None of the above, a mix,
> or something out of what I said, might help guide you into what exactly 
> I'm
> saying needs clarified.
>
> [Case]
> I mean that Order is a subset of Chaos. If Chaos is the set of all
> probability then Order is the set of persistent relationships within that
> set. Order is a specific form of Chaos. We as creatures find the orderly
> patterns. They are of no real significance as TITs.
>
> Order is important to us because we have purpose and meaning in our lives
> and Order is a feature of this. But there is no trumping going on. No
> ranking other than what we assign. Assigning Value is something that 
> occurs
> in experience as the MoQ would have it.
>
> Order is a form of Chaos. They are not two different things.
>
> [Case]
>> Metaphysic for me is a search for ideas that transcend any particular
> disciple.
>
> [SA]
> Does this mean, all current disciples are unsatisfactory?
>
> [Case]
> No, why would you say that?
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