[MD] Chaos and Goldilocks

[David M]

Hi SA

It all pours, from nowhere, through us,
over us, beyond us, and abundantly.
We all know we are only a part of a
larger dynamic.

DM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Chaos and Goldilocks


> Hi DM
>
>
>     [SA previously]
>> >     First off, I don't think you mean disciple,
>> maybe
>> > discipline?  If you did mean the former, then I
>> was
>> > thrown off by the comment.  If you do mean
>> discipline,
>> > then by metaphysics, your saying it is trying to
>> > transcend.  Transcend is to get away from, or
>> beyond.
>> > What is metaphysics trying to get beyond?  If
>> > metaphysics is always trying to get away,
>> transcend,
>> > and go beyond, when will metaphysics be satisfied?
>
>
>
>> DM: Do we not transcend experience every time
>> our experience changes? We sit still and things
>> change.  We leave the room and transcend it.  We see
> things
>> differently and reveal another transcendence?
>
>
>     Obviously, to the both of us, it is this word
> transcend.  Hmmm, transcend, thinkin'...
>     This is closer to what I'm viewin', especially
> when that word comes up, and how I'm relating what I
> think transcend means, to what I'm actually
> experiencing.  I'm not caught in transcendence, as in
> beyond any experience.  That's how I view the meaning
> of transcendence (as something beyond the here and
> now).  Yes, we experience changes, and yet, I'm
> immanent, that is, here and now, always.  This is not
> a strict perspective that is trying to invalidate past
> and future.  I've experienced those, too.  Yet, it is
> that those are being experienced in the here and now.
> Discontinuity occurs, and I notice past and future
> compared to the here and now, but it is here and now
> that I'll be able to differentiate past and future.
> So, I didn't want to get trapped into transcendence
> meaning something I've yet to experience and something
> I've yet to settle upon (the unsatisfactory aspect I
> brought up).  We are as you state above:  "see(ing)
> things differently and reveal another transcendence".
> I agree with this, when transcendence means, something
> happening now and always, and thus, not too exciting,
> not too boring - it is as it is, but new.
>
>     Is this making any sense?
>
> thanks.
>
> baby is cryin', dog scratchin', leaves just rolled
> over,
> SA
>
>
>
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