[MD] Research

[ian glendinning]

Hi Mark, .... ah, bliss ...

(When I compare the comments here to my earlier response, I noticed I
used words like happy, excited you're happy, postitive, etc up front
too.)

I won't repeat myself, but adding the musical theme fits well too.
(tuning / resonance / coherence etc). I think this stuff is typically
PoM / Evolved Intelligence / EvoPsych material too. As well as the
reference Dan gave you, look at Booth (who discovered the Cello late
in a life of academic rhetoric), as well as Minsky and of course
Hofstader for musical links between logic and aesthetic.

Follow your muse.
I've said enough.
Ian

On 12/13/06, Squonkonguitar at aol.com <Squonkonguitar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Dan,
> This is a fascinating article.
> There was a time when i was studying music and philosophy as separate areas
> and this article would have been a good subject for the music side of  things.
> I jumped over to the philosophy though and there is very little written
> about music by philosophers, which is a great pity in my view.
> I think philosophers tend to regard music as biological and therefore
> irrelevant area of study. Maybe that is changing in the area of philosophy of  mind?
> I don't know.
> Those philosophers who study culture seem to regard popular music as low
> art. This is where this article may have been valuable - imagine correlating
> popular music with the philosophy of language!
>
> Moving onto an moq look at this you may have hit upon something here  Dan?
> The moq would say those aspects of language which are imitated are social
> patterns, but language has musical tones also, as this article highlights. I've
> always thought of music as a Dynamic activity: If this is an appropriate way
> of  thinking about it, then language may derive a Dynamic component through
> musical  tone?
> Imagine a monotone speech?
> It kills doesn't it? Stone dead.
> Tone introduces more meaning and cannot be defined in a dictionary.
> Words: Static aspect.
> Tone: Dynamic function?
>
> At the intellectual level, abstract relationships are very often described
> as musical by those who appreciate them. Musical because the implications for
> abstract ideas may be fluid yet patterned relationships.
>
> This may lead to a suggestion that music as a Dynamic influence is growing
> at each evolutionary level of the moq?
> Here's another suggestion: A Dynamic philosophy is more musical than a
> static one.
> No wonder logic has taken off so much in the 20th century - that musical
> influence institutionally privileges those who can deal with it over those who
> can't. At bottom, these logicians, who poo poo popular music and  aesthetics
> may have more to owe them than they would care to realise?
>
> Your suggestion would make a fascinating area for research Dan!
> Which area would accommodate an inroad?
> Metaphysics?
> Aesthetics?
> Philosophy of mind?
> I'm not sure, but it turns out your suggestion may be close  to my own choice.
> Thanks for your support Dan,
> Love,
> Mark
>
>
> In a message dated 13/12/2006 21:27:36 GMT Standard Time,
> daneglover at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hello  everyone
>
> >From: Squonkonguitar at aol.com
> >Reply-To:  moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >Subject:  [MD] Research
> >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:05:02  EST
> >
> >
> >Dear Forum,
> >On December 6th 2006 i was  informed squonk will be accepted  onto the
> >University of  Liverpool's Autumn 2007 mphil research programme,  which
> >leads  after
> >one year's successful work onto the PhD programme. (This is   standard
> >procedure
> >for all PhD research staff.)
>
> Hi  Mark
> That's great news! Congratulations!
>
> >
> >I've been  negotiating a research area with a joint supervisory team
> >consisting of  one philosopher from the Eastern tradition and another
> >philosopher from
> >the Western tradition. It has been my  intention to focus upon  one area
> >common to both traditions which  will then support the moq as a viable
> >unification.
>
> There's some interesting research being done into  how the brain perceives
> language and music. This particular article caught  my  attention:
>
> http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1554
>
> Would  it be at all worthwhile to explore the correlation between biological
> perception of language vs. the resultant cultural philosophy by comparing
> Eastern and Western tradition in this light? For instance, traditional
> education in the West consists of students learning what the instructors
> teach. Traditional education in the East, at least in Buddhism, seems to
> rely on students realizing for themselves what they already know. How does
> perception of language affect the differing contexts?
>
> Not sure  exactly what I'm getting at, really. There seems to be something
> there  worth exploring though. More thought would be required to nail it
> down, I  guess.
>
> >
> >Support for this application could not have been  more encouraging; the
> >people at Liverpool have been supportive and most  kind. As one of the
> >philosophers
> >commented, 'I know you  want this shot through with Quality.'
> >
> >If anyone should wish to  offer suggestions regarding an appropriate  area
> >of
> >research i will be happy to consider them  seriously.
> >I've got an area in mind, and one individual apart from the  two potential
> >supervisors, (who shall remain nameless, i.e. Ian  Glenndening) knows what
> >it is.
>
> Good luck  Mark.
>
> Dan
>
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