[MD] Research
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Squonkonguitar at aol.com
Wed Dec 13 17:11:13 PST 2006
Hi Ian and Dan,
"Fugues have that interesting property, that each of their voices is a piece
of music in itself; and thus a fugue might be thought of as a collection of
several distinct pieces of music, all based on one single theme, and all
played simultaneously...each of these individually meaningful lines fuse with the
others in a highly non random way, to make a graceful totality."
[Hofstadter, GOEDEL, ESCHER, BACH, p. 283]
Hearing a theme is like seeing a thing in a room, a section or movement is
like a room, and a whole sonata is like an entire building. I do not mean to
say that music builds the sorts of things that space-builder does. (That is too
naive a comparison of sound and place.) I do mean to say that composers
stimulate coherency by engaging the same sorts of inter-agent coordinations that
vision uses to produce its illusion of a stable world using, of course,
different agents. I think the same is true of talk or writing, the way these very
paragraphs make sense– or sense of sense–if any. Music, Mind, and Meaning.
Marvin Minsky. Computer Music Journal, Fall 1981, Vol. 5, Number 3
This seems to point to a philosophy of mind approach Ian?
I know well the moq tries to avoid the term, 'mind' and it does have a sour
Western bias - Indian philosophers may not even choose to recognise the term -
but if this area of research is a lock just waiting for sq/DQ to pick it
then maybe the stigma of the term, 'mind' may be a burden worth carrying for 3
or 4 years?
Key to picking this lock (excuse the musical pun) may be providing a very
simple and elegant metaphysically stable account of what coherence is?
Well, that's already been done hasn't it squire! (squire? lock?)
If i wish to persuade the supervisors i have in mind (no! stop it!) to help
me i need to interest them as well as gain freedom to follow my own path.
Philosophy of mind, Metaphysics and Phenomenology are key areas of interest for
these potential supervisors.
I could hammer (piano)? the philosophy of mind approach to a point where it
crescendo's for one note to resolve it, and that note could be the moq? In a
sense, this would ensure the thesis is actually shot through with Quality?
I think it's true to say one can never know where help may emerge next and
you and Dan may have started something here...
But it's early days and this may all be for nowt.
Thanks Dan and Ian,
Love,
Mark
Hi Mark, .... ah, bliss ...
(When I compare the comments here to my earlier response, I noticed I
used words like happy, excited you're happy, postitive, etc up front
too.)
I won't repeat myself, but adding the musical theme fits well too.
(tuning / resonance / coherence etc). I think this stuff is typically
PoM / Evolved Intelligence / EvoPsych material too. As well as the
reference Dan gave you, look at Booth (who discovered the Cello late
in a life of academic rhetoric), as well as Minsky and of course
Hofstader for musical links between logic and aesthetic.
Follow your muse.
I've said enough.
Ian
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