[MD] Chaos

[ian glendinning]

DM
Eye, beholder, wood, trees .... brilliant.
Thanks for the quotes ..
Ian

On 12/14/06, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> William Blake:
>
> The tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the Eyes of others only a
> Green thing that stands in the way. Some See Nature all Ridicule &
> Deformity, & by these I shall not regulate my proportions; & some Scarce see
> Nature at all. But to the Eyes of the Man of Imagination, Nature is
> Imagination itself. As a man is, So he Sees. As the Eye is formed, such are
> its Powers. You certainly Mistake, when you say that the Visions of Fancy
> are not to be found in This World. To Me This World is all One continued
> Vision of Fancy or Imagination.
>
> Martin Heidegger:
>
> How are we going to find our famous particulars, the individual trees
>
> as such, as trees; how shall we be able even to look for trees, unless the
> representation of what a tree in general is shines before us?.
>
> Unless we are guided by a developed knowledge of treeness. we can look over
> thousands of trees in vain
>
> -we shall not see the tree for the trees
>
>
>
> David M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Chaos
>
>
> >
> >     [DM]
> >> I understand that the solution suggested by the
> >> philosopher of science Nick Maxwell is that we need
> > to understand
> >> what we value, what we consequently want to attain
> > that
> >> is of value, and develop theories that recognise
> > what we value
> >> and what we ends we are seeking.
> >
> >
> >     Exactly.  I like trees.  Trees are trees.  Trees
> > are me.  Now, this value, my end that I seek (or
> > settled perspective) works well for me, and the world
> > due to trees so numerous.  Yet, exactly what I'm
> > saying (the context, content, meaning, etc...) is
> > settling upon perspective, who's perspective though
> > one might ask.  Mine and anybody reading this.  What
> > is this perspective?  It is totally real trees, and it
> > is me, this real tree.  What the heck does this mean?
> > Any questions like this latter one, is the whole ball
> > in chain in which might lead to more questions, more
> > clarity needed, and yet, once we take certain steps
> > this all might be clear, even if the clarity is to why
> > I'm saying stuff like this.  Then explanations might
> > be necessary, but we are all well aware that to get
> > trapped in depending upon somebody for an explanation
> > too much is to doubt ourselves, and here, question
> > mark, all over again.  Is this what anybody wants,
> > 'question-mark-all-over-again'.
> >
> > clouds out of nowhere, seemingly,
> > SA
> >
> > P.S. excellent post DM
> >
> >
> >
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