[MD] Quantum Physics

[Heather Perella]

> Chin)
> I think we are saying the same thing. You see the
> quiet as the source,

     Source, as in thus (quiet) or such (quiet) that
is bottomless, forgiving (accepts and has 'space' for
so much possibility).  Yet, quiet is not potential and
the possibilities themselves, I don't think so, I'm
not really sure.  Quiet, as for what is happening
presently, allows sound, trees, and birds to vibrate,
grown, and fly right through it.  It is quiet, a sound
is heard, yet, the quiet remains.  The quiet supports
and is context for the bird singing.

     [Chin]
> and the noise creating a static latch, in that you
> realize something 
> from the quiet.

     Awesome!!  Yeaper!  I would also notice this as
sq-latching-dq, which also means
'sq-returning-upon-its'-self' or
'sq-returning-upon-its'-no-self'.  These two mean the
same thing.  Thus, noise latches upon quiet, finds no
foothold, returns upon its'-self/its'-no-self:  and
here, this returning upon its'-self/its'-no-self
(which I'll just call true-self for now to cut down on
the typing), so, anyways, and here, this returning is
where so much might happen.  This is where I saw
coherence fitting in, where Squonk and I were
discussing.  Realization is another event.  All these
events summed upon in this 'returning', are they the
same?  This is probably what the Chinese called 'the
ten thousand things'.  This returning is everything,
which includes the new.  The noise is a static latch
as realizing this quiet occurs.  A static latch in the
context of this quiet, and a static latch in that all
that goes into this noise.  Noise must latch staticly
with something, as if, pulling, latching the whole
universe upon a new experience, and all that hear this
sound are pulled, latched 'into' or 'upon' this new
experience that involves this sound, and all the other
static qualities present.

     [Chin]
> The quiet would be DQ, and when this
> enlightenment 
> hits, it becomes sq, you have experienced a static
> latch to the DQ. If 
> the enlightenment is unconscious...

     Unconscious due to experiencing the
original-mind, dq, quietness, buddha-nature, etc...
and yet, not conscious of this experience one is
already having.  In this case, one is conscious of the
experience, knows dq, knows quiet, knows
buddha-nature, but doesn't know that what one was
noticing the whole time, was truly the buddha-nature,
dq, quiet, etc...


     [Chin]
> ...it becomes DQ when
> conscious once a 
> hint brings it out of the unconsciousness, then it
> becomes sq? 

     I think what your asking here is this.  Correct
me if I'm wrong.  
     Enlightenment is a something in the creek. 
Swimming in a water hole.  I put my fish hook in the
hole with the currents and I angle this bait just
right.  We find so much is happening while fishing,
and then I feel a tug.  Not sure what this is, but
I've intended and practiced for this moment for some
time now.  Don't quite know what is tugging, but I
reel it in.  Unconscious is this something tugging
upon this fishing line amidst this creek and forest. 
I pull out of the water, a fish.  Now realized, thus
sq, is this fish.  Yet, this fish was unconscious to
me.  Even before I walked and put my line into this
hole, the fish was here.  This fish grew, ate, and did
so much, yet, all along always here (of course this is
an analogue, so, 'always' works for this story).  Now
I realize this fish.  This fish is now conscious to
me.  I put the fish back into the creek.  I notice a
calmness.  I sense this experience is quiet.  I walk
down creek, realizing much about the creek, the
forest, and I wake up not just to this fish, but this
forest with each step.  Is enlightenment = realizing? 
Yes, but in the sense that quiet is still here.  Not
an enlightenment to realize static patterns over and
over, and gain ego knowledge.  Fish was already here. 
Enlightenment is already here.  It is quiet, even when
realized, I still realize this quiet.


     [Chin] 
> Sorry for the late reply. I lost my Road Runner
> email yesterday.


     That's ok.  I worked 16 hours yesterday, so, at
times I will not be able to get back to you that
quickly either.  This discussion seems to be getting
me somewhere enjoyable and enlightening with the
understanding that I'm not really going anywhere, for
it is this quietness, this clearness of mind, allowing
all boundaries to latch, yet, be porous so as not to
get stuck.  At this moment, I'd rather be involved in
these kinds of discussions, thanks, I really
appreciate this joyfully!  We seem to be coming to
conclusions and agreeing, yet, a newness and freshness
allows this discussion to persist.


wind calmed yesterday for the first time in days, yet,
I see wind is back,
SA

 

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