[MD] Sin Part 1

[Case]

[Platt]
Declare victory and let Al Quada rule Iraq? You must have a death wish.

[Case]
We should declare victory and let Iraqis rule Iraq. I wish freedom and
liberty of everyone.

[Platt]
Prisoners of war are not given the capturing country's legal 
protections. Even the international Geneva Convention doesn't apply to 
terrorists who dress as civilians and hide behind women's skirts. 

[Case]
Prisoners of war are subject to international law as is a country that
willfully deprives detainees of their rights without due process.

[Platt]
Terrorists forfeit any and all "rights."

[Case]
So if the state calls you a terrorist you are willing to submit to the same
treatment? Your rights should be forfeited on the basis of and accusation? 

[Platt]
Ever hear of sales tax? And fees?

[Case]
Only free men participating in capitalism pay these. 

 [Platt]
There are laws against vagrancy.

[Case]
These laws have almost all been stricken from the books because they have
rightly been declared unconstitutional.

[Platt]
"Threat of force." You got it!

[Case]
What is your point here? The government can do a lot more that threaten to
use force.

[Platt]
The worst ruling ever by the Supreme Court was to sanction the income
tax. I'm with Arlo on endorsing the Fair Tax proposal.

[Case]
This was an amendment to the constitution passed after the court ruled such
taxes unconstitutional. I suspect it was passed because regular folk saw is
as a way of shafting the wealthy.

[Platt]
There's that word again, "force." Let's be sure to keep that in mind 
when talking about any government involvement in our lives.

[Case]
I really don't see what point you are trying to make with this.

[Platt]
Due process for terrorists? Never.  Kill them. Our pussy footing around 
with terrorists in Iraq is why we haven't won. In war, its kill or be 
killed. Due process doesn't apply. 

[Case]
Due process for terrorists, child molesters, rapists and cannibals, always.
We are losing in Iraq because we were stupid to go in.  

[Platt]
You mean a majority can vote to strip away property rights of a 
minority?

[Case]
Of course it can but our system is designed to reduce the likelihood.
Madison discussed this a considerable length in the Federalist Papers under
the topic of "faction."

[Platt]
Yes, there's always slavery or totalitarianism where you to told what  
to produce, or else.

[Case]
Not here.

[Platt]
Not determined by law. Determined by the intellectual morality of 
individual freedom, protected and preserved by law in the U.S. 

[Case]
Intellectual morality codified into law by elected representatives of the
people. Why do I have to keep explaining to you how our systems of
government works? Surely, you know this stuff.

[Platt]
Again, glad to see you emphasize that government is essentially 
legalized force at the  point of a gun. And you wonder why I am 
suspicious of government? 

[Case]
Our government is essentially of the people, by the people and for the
people. No I don't understand why you are so suspicious of "We the people."

[Platt]
Eminent domain was never intended to enrich private developers. And
you wonder why I'm suspicious of government?

[Case]
I agree but I also agree that laws can be enacted to correct this.