[MD] are theism and mysticism mutually exclusive notions?

[Heather Perella]

Case, (Dan and Khaled mentioned),

     [Case said to Dan]
> In the first
> lecture an astronomer was
> talking about string theory and said that it is not
> really science because
> it has yet to produce a testable hypothesis. Now
> that is strict materialism.

     Case, string theory is all theory, includes a lot
of math, last time I checked.  String theory is
persuasive, but has little, if NO material, little or
no experiment is capable of verifying it.  I know if
we want to observe strings it would take a particle
accelerator the size of the solar system to come
close, as for what human beings are able to make
technologically.    

> In the third lecture a theologian concluded that our
> attempts to understand
> the world must begin with the Trinity. I wanted to
> break all dmb on him.

  Khaled has mentioned this book before by Karen
Armstrong called "The History of God".  The Trinity in
the Greek or Eastern Christianity has been a way of
contemplation the presence and awe of G-d.  It is
Western Christianity, if I remember correctly (yeah
memory at times goes vague when philosophical or any
notion doesn't become imbued in everyday life), that
leaned the Trinity towards a more literal
interpretation.
 
> I guess what I am getting at is that even in the MoQ
> we end up with this
> tension between the world as objects and the world
> as process. Or the world
> is things and the world as ideas. If the MoQ is
> seeking to resolve this
> conflict, well to quote Bart Simpson, "Are we there
> yet? Are we there yet?
> Are we there yet?"

     Are there things?  Do these things do stuff (have
process)?  Are there ideas?  Yes to all three, what's
the problem?  This world is a blend, and allows for
our view of these three.  Could this view change? 
Sure, and isn't that what a blend, a world being
dynamic does?  We'll never know it all, we human
beings can't live it all.  I know I'm not a black
hole, and yet, I'm sure a black hole has something to
do with me.
     By the way, when you quote Bart Simpson, "Are we
there yet?"  A question, "What is quality?"  will give
you the same answer, a dynamic answer, an answer that
can be static and changing due to unfinished work.    

     If this work was finished, then why are the
leaves falling in autumn?  Winter is coming!  
  
SA

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