[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[Dan Glover]

>From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
>
>The statement "Man is the measure of all things."  speaks for its' self,
>got no problem with it, but
>  then Micah makes the leap to
>"Nothing can be shown to exist independent of humans" is an objective
>statement. It is fact."
>
>This seems to be the problem. How they got lumped together in his
>philosophy
>And interpreted to mean roughly the same thing and support eachother
>Was the thrust of my question put to Micah. If he is going to make bold
>statements and declare them "fact"
>He at least should explain himself as to how he arrived at this.
>"Stating we're all too dense to get it" seems a rather poor way to leave
>it.
>I'd rather not alienate anyone, my aim is to understand, not to
>Belittle him.

MITMOAT isn't even a Pirsig statement. It goes back over a couple thousand 
years to Protagoras and we've discussed it many times here. But Micah 
doesn't seem to be in the mood for discussion. He seems to want to preach. 
Each time someone broaches any subject with him he consistently hurtles 
MITMOAT at them.

The fact of the matter is that MITMOAT is but a tiny part of the MOQ. 
There's so many more ideas contained therein that it becomes very 
frustrating for me (and others I am sure) to continue reading the same 
statement over and over and then being told we're all a bunch of idiots 
because we just don't get it.

We like to poke fun here (isn't that really why we're here, for fun?) but I 
really don't think anyone is seeking to belittle another member. I know I'm 
not. I would suggest dropping the focus on MITMOAT and delving into other 
aspects of the MOQ might be a better approach.



















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