[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[Laycock, Jos (OSPT)]

Ian, 

Great I'd be interested to see it. 
I'm not getting enought time to write in at the moment but I am watching. 

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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of ian glendinning
> Sent: 19 January 2007 15:05
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> Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)
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> 
> Jos,
> 
> Right back to your start of this spin-off thread ... you said Dawkins
> is not unaware of our litte debates.
> 
> I can confirm that. His "official" web-site included some time ago a
> thread he started called "I'm an atheist but ...". It was about all
> the arguments atheists have with Dawkins. (I commented on it, but i
> didn't see any other MoQ'ers.)
> 
> I'll dig out the link.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On 1/19/07, ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Platt,
> >
> > I though that was too good to be true :-)
> > Inserted [IG] below ...
> >
> > > No, I do not accept "emergence" as a worthwhile 
> explanation. It's tantamount
> > > to "oops" which explains nothing.
> > [IG] It says far more than "oops", but clearly you don't 
> buy the explanation.
> >
> > > Nor do I find "self-organizing" enlightening,
> > > especially when many who ascribe to that idea also claim 
> "self" as nonexistent.
> > [IG] Not guilty. Whoever these many are, I'm no one of them. Self
> > exists like anything else.
> >
> > > As for magic, every time a chick steps out whole from an 
> egg like the one
> > > I had for breakfast this morning, I see teleology.
> > [IG] We all "see" that teleology Platt, the difficult bit is
> > explaining why. It always looks like magic if we see it as a single
> > causal step rather than looking at it through the many layers
> > involved.
> >
> > > But, I could be wrong.
> > [IG] Couldn't we all ?
> >
> > >
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