[MD] What's missing

[Mati Palm-Leis]

Marsha, 

MV: 
I was suggesting that one can have a direct, nondualistic experience 
that is prior to, or separate from, intellect.   But then when you 
try to think or talk about it, you get tangled in the culture's 
dualistic static pattern of value.

Mati: Bingo!!!!, and this analysis of the dualistic static pattern of value
is the basis for philosophy. And when this static pattern is used to define
reality from a rational context we have intellect.  Now this pattern may
seem cold and .... static, but.... I has also given us the capacity to come
full circle and allow us to recognize the undivided reality of the moon
being the moon. 

MV: 
It seems to me that intellect coexists with language, snip....

Mati: As it does with the social values. 

MV: ... and in the West they are both predicated on a subject/object
point-of-view.   I've wondered about your question too.  Maybe there are
non-Western cultures that are not built on dualistic understanding.  Poetry
is 
often non-dualistic.  Right?   Native American?  I would love to here 
from other too.

Mati: Sure there are non-dualistic experiences, poetry, art, etc. however as
you perhaps elude to understanding requires definition and definition
requires a dualistic capacity to establish meaning that is philosophy. Just
as the moon is just the moon, philosophy is just philosophy, a beauty all in
its own.

Mati

   


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