[MD] Falling out of Time/Space

[Krimel]

[gav]
i guess, as marsha has pointed out, your life can flash before your eyes.
'life' 'flash' - strange isn't it - the idea that your whole life can happen
in a flash....but that's how it happens - that's the truth of the
experience.

timelessness means eternity. the definition of timelessness is eternity.
time is finite/ timelessness is infinite. sq/dq

psychedelic drugs can help produce timeless feelings and they do feel
'eternal' - as if there is an ocean of 'now'. however it is a better idea to
discipline the mind through diet, exercise, meditation, yoga etc and reach
the timeless dimension this way. 


maybe another way to describe all this is to equate the mythos with the
eternal and the logos with the temporal....

[Krimel]
OK, let's try it this way: Is been suggested that our inability to grasp the
fine points of metaphysics is the result of our being limited to a
space/time perspective. This has been stated as though a space/time
perspective is somehow optional. I am asking what would be some other
options, that one might seriously consider.

Even when your life flashes before your eyes, it is sequential, just fast
forward and hitting the highlights. Having a feeling of chemically induced
timelessness is not necessarily a feeling of timelessness but rather a
feeling of being drugged. Or having a disciplined mind might feel a certain
way but is still just the feeling of having a disciplined mind. There are
all kinds of altered states that produce altered perceptions. I guess that
is why I am suspicious of altered states in general as guides to "what it's
all about". I mean they are fun but they call them "trips" for a reason.

 
> Gav, Krimel,
> 
> Speaking of falling.  I made one freefall.  It was only 10
> seconds 
> and I counted the seconds to pull my ripcord.  But those
> seconds were 
> very, very long.  I remember thinking that one could easily
> see their 
> whole life pass before them in a few seconds.  I was still
> counting 
> those seconds, but it felt like consciousness spread 
> sideways/horizontal and there was lots of room of multiple
> thoughts 
> at the same time.  It was amazing.
> 
> It was my last jump of the season.  The next spring my
> first jump was 
> static line.  When I landed (in a cow field) I broke my
> ankle and 
> that was the end of that.
> 
> You don't forget an experience like that.  Maybe it was
> so 
> unforgettable because it was only one jump.
> 
> Anyway...
> 
> 
> Marsha