[MD] Falling out of Time/Space

[MarshaV]

Krimel,

Just to remind you that there are altered states chemically induced 
for different purposes.  Recreational is certainly one reason, but 
not the only reason.

Marsha




At 11:35 AM 8/18/2008, you wrote:
>[gav]
>i guess, as marsha has pointed out, your life can flash before your eyes.
>'life' 'flash' - strange isn't it - the idea that your whole life can happen
>in a flash....but that's how it happens - that's the truth of the
>experience.
>
>timelessness means eternity. the definition of timelessness is eternity.
>time is finite/ timelessness is infinite. sq/dq
>
>psychedelic drugs can help produce timeless feelings and they do feel
>'eternal' - as if there is an ocean of 'now'. however it is a better idea to
>discipline the mind through diet, exercise, meditation, yoga etc and reach
>the timeless dimension this way.
>
>
>maybe another way to describe all this is to equate the mythos with the
>eternal and the logos with the temporal....
>
>[Krimel]
>OK, let's try it this way: Is been suggested that our inability to grasp the
>fine points of metaphysics is the result of our being limited to a
>space/time perspective. This has been stated as though a space/time
>perspective is somehow optional. I am asking what would be some other
>options, that one might seriously consider.
>
>Even when your life flashes before your eyes, it is sequential, just fast
>forward and hitting the highlights. Having a feeling of chemically induced
>timelessness is not necessarily a feeling of timelessness but rather a
>feeling of being drugged. Or having a disciplined mind might feel a certain
>way but is still just the feeling of having a disciplined mind. There are
>all kinds of altered states that produce altered perceptions. I guess that
>is why I am suspicious of altered states in general as guides to "what it's
>all about". I mean they are fun but they call them "trips" for a reason.
>
>
> > Gav, Krimel,
> >
> > Speaking of falling.  I made one freefall.  It was only 10
> > seconds
> > and I counted the seconds to pull my ripcord.  But those
> > seconds were
> > very, very long.  I remember thinking that one could easily
> > see their
> > whole life pass before them in a few seconds.  I was still
> > counting
> > those seconds, but it felt like consciousness spread
> > sideways/horizontal and there was lots of room of multiple
> > thoughts
> > at the same time.  It was amazing.
> >
> > It was my last jump of the season.  The next spring my
> > first jump was
> > static line.  When I landed (in a cow field) I broke my
> > ankle and
> > that was the end of that.
> >
> > You don't forget an experience like that.  Maybe it was
> > so
> > unforgettable because it was only one jump.
> >
> > Anyway...
> >
> >
> > Marsha
>
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