[MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Fri Jul 25 16:14:50 PDT 2008


Marsha

Only disappointed that you did not think it was worth discussing.

DM

>
>
> David,
>
> More disappointed at what?  I thought your remark was over the top.  If I 
> was wrong in my interpretation and you want an apology...  I'm sorry.  I 
> have no desire to argue with you.  I have no desire to prove you wrong.  I 
> have no desire to prove I'm right.  I am often wrong, so again, I am 
> sorry.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>> Marsha
>>
>> More disappointed.
>>
>> DM
>>
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> You must be right.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David M" <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha
>>>>
>>>> Yes, in the context of us as MOQ critics of western culture who
>>>> often ask what we can learn from the east, I was asking
>>>> what the east can learn from the west for a change? Is that
>>>> a bad thing? You might think the answer is no, maybe you should
>>>> try answering the question rather than just chucking abuse and odd
>>>> suspicions at the questioner, it's a shame don't you think? Of course,
>>>> the second comment you quote is in the context of the problematic
>>>> comprehension of the west known as MOQ, I kind of take that as a
>>>> given round here, but happy to confirm that this criticism works, at 
>>>> the
>>>> least, both ways. My point is to find where east and west might meet,
>>>> but that that may require both to move.
>>>>
>>>> DM
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A statement like "the eastern mystic may be happy to sit
>>>>>>> meditating whilst the world
>>>>>>> goes to hell." shows a depth of ignorance of an important half of 
>>>>>>> the MOQ's East/West synthesis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nagarjuna obliterates subject/object dualism in a manner that 
>>>>>>> shouldn't be missed.  This leaves the air clean and fresh for a new 
>>>>>>> world-view experience.  Many of the problems this list is having 
>>>>>>> "defining things" would melt away.  The subject/object pov stays 
>>>>>>> intact but can be seen as a workable method in a conventional world 
>>>>>>> not reality itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the word 'may' in my proposition may have passed you by.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DM
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm sure the next sentence, "Here is perhaps where the west can 
>>>>> ask if the east needs to think again in more comprehensive way." was 
>>>>> just as innocent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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