[MD] The percolating SOL

[Ham Priday]

David --

> Ham said:
> There remains, however, the question: What IS the cause of Value?
>
> dmb says:
> When someone answers that, I'll ask about the cause of
> the cause of value. Then somebody can ask about the
> cause of the cause of the cause of value. And so on, forever.
> Just as in the case of theology's "prime mover" or "first cause",
> it's a goofy, goofy fake problem.

It is a "goofy fake problem" only for those who cannot see their way out of 
the fallacy of infinite regression.   Since they have no answer to "What 
caused the Big Bang?" or "What created Consciousness?", they refuse to 
regard the concept of a primary cause as valid.  And so it remains a 
metaphysical problem.

Empirical reality is understood as a cause-and-effect system, the "effects" 
seen as a series of events occurring in time.  This presumes that dimensions 
like time and space are fundamental to reality, rather than the relational 
mode of finite experience.  Yet experience has to be the impediment in our 
understanding, as logic does not support the view that the first instance of 
anything is "uncaused".  It is man's intellectual bias, not logic, which 
rejects the idea of a "first cause" because it's associated with theology.

When we free ourselves from religious bias and adversity to metaphysics, it 
becomes clear that everything in existence is a "creation", and that 
phenomena which have no causal explanation can only be accounted for by an 
"uncreated source" that is not limited by existential conditions such as 
time, space, and evolution.  Regrettably, despite all their talk about the 
short-sightedness of SOM thinking, MoQ's author and his followers are 
unwilling to seek understanding beyond finitude.

Essentially speaking,
Ham