[MD] Perceptions: the deception of it all...

[John Carl]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Greetings John,
>
> I believe Krishnamurti and David Bohm are trying to explain an insight that
> is beyond thoughts and language, Quality perhaps, which, as you know, is
> indivisible, undefinable and unknowable.  If your 'judgement' is of the
> conceptual type then it is something other than immediate experience as I
> know it.




Marsha this thing called "judgement" has been niggling at my brain since I
joined this forum.  Royce talks about it a lot.

How is judgement related to Quality?    Judgement is our apprehension of
Quality? Judgement is the subjective realization of non-subjective Quality?


Sigh.  So much to ponder, so little time.

I admit my eyes sorta glaze over when someone tries to explain insight using
words about something  beyond thought and language.  I mean, what IS the
point?   Sure you can call it Quality.  You can call it anything and fall
into whatever word trap you prefer.  I'll  just go ahead and park in my
driveway.

I'll leave you with a quote from a book I just finished that I hope you,
Bohm, Krishnamurti, Pirsig and I would all appreciate:


"Abstract cleverness of mind only separates the thinker from the world of
reality, and that world, the Forest of Real Life, is in a desperate
condition now because of too many who think too much and care too little."


john the idealist


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The self is a point along a dynamic continuum, evolving toward Quality by
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