[MD] Marsha's (s)OL

plattholden at gmail.com plattholden at gmail.com
Mon Oct 12 15:41:24 PDT 2009


On 12 Oct 2009 at 16:27, MarshaV wrote:

> I added my original post at the bottom of this one, but let me repeat, 'The
> Intellectual Level is comprised of patterns that represent the process of
> objectifying and manipulating abstract symbols: "Objectification is the
> process by which abstract concepts are treated as if they were concrete
> things or physical objects.  In this  
> sense the term is synonym to reification."'  This is my description of the
> patterns the inhabit the Intellectual level.  I do not agree that intellect
> is "simply thinking". There is no 'simply thinking' within  the MoQ; there
> is unpatterned experience (DQ) and patterned experience (sq = static
> patterns of value).  

Hi Marsha,

I like this but have a couple of questions. When you say, "The 
intellectual level is comprised of patterns that represent the process of 
objectifying and manipulating abstract symbols, " I wonder what you 
mean by "patterns" and "represent." Does "patterns" refer to 
grammatical rules perhaps? Do the symbols employed in 
communicating grammatical rules comprise what is doing the 
"representing?" In other words, I'm trying to identify the patterns you 
refer to at the beginning and the symbols that "represent the process."

Maybe this is a case of the snake swallowing its tail (strange loop) or the 
impossibility of defining a symbolic (representative) system with other 
symbols. Or maybe, and most likely, I'm making a mountain out of mole 
hole. 

Anyway, your last line is classic. One for my keeper book.

Platt 



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