[MD] MOQ Recursion

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Arlo had asked]
If it is not an inorganic or biological or social or intellectual pattern of
value, what is it?

[Bo]
"It" is probably the MOQ. 

[Arlo]
So the "inorganic level" is NOT a "pattern of value" at all? Or is it another
kind, a new kind, of pattern of value?

[Bo]
And Mary had replied A pattern of values is exactly that - a pattern of values.

[Arlo]
Which ought to be plain enough. 

[Arlo]
Oh gee. Duh. So when I ask what kind of "pattern of value" it is, and the reply
is "its a pattern of values", you think that is an answer?

What if I asked, "according to the MOQ, what kind of pattern of value is a
rock?", and Mary answered "its a pattern of values", you think that has
explanatory power?? 

[Bo]
The inorganic level is just what it says: a level. What kind of nonsense is
this? 

[Arlo]
So the "levels" are NOT patterns of value at all? You are saying that,
according to the MOQ, there is DQ/SQ/Levels?

[Bo]
The MOQ is out of SOM - of intellect 

[Arlo]
So the "levels" are patterns of value of a new, higher, level above intellect?

[Bo]
...it's just the "embers" of intellect to ask like Arlo does what the various
levels' or patterns' "nature" is. 

[Arlo]
Yeah, I know, the best way to avoid a question is to claim "its SOM!". The
Great Ostrich move, I get it.

[Bo]
The MOQ is the DQ/SQ metaphysics. Full stop!  

[Arlo]
So the MOQ is not a "pattern of value" at all? How does something exist,
according to the MOQ, if it is not a "pattern of value"?

But move away from "the MOQ" (we'll get there), and go back to just "the
inorganic level". Are you saying that "levels" are NOT patterns of value at
all? 

According to the MOQ, everything except DQ is a "pattern of value", in fact
"SQ" is restatable as "patterns of value". If everything is SQ(patterns of
value) except DQ, then where are these "levels" that are not patterns of value?

Time for another Great Ostrich?