[MD] Consciousness & Moq.
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 25 20:37:06 PDT 2010
Dave T said to dmb:
Don't bother to read Chalmer's book it will at first lift you up, then burst all your bubbles. If true, particularly your Pirsig ones. He is developing a theory of consciousness based on what he calls Natural Dualism. RMP's layer structure would be/is seriously fucked and they rest of it does not correspond either.
dmb says:
RMP's "layer structure" does not clash with Chalmers' natural dualism. Chalmers is simply saying that consciousness is not just a product of physical processes. His dualism says that consciousness is a separate ontological category and cannot be reduced to physical processes. Because his anti-reductionism is being asserted against physicalist positions in the philosophy of mind, this criticism is very helpful to the MOQ. Pirsig is also opposed to that kind of reductionism because of the way it excludes values and Chalmers "hard problem" raises that same issue to the front and center of the debate. As I understand it, this is the central thesis of his book, the one you think I should NOT read.
I think it's pretty clear that you barely know what you're talking about. I had to look Chalmers up just to figure out what you were TRYING to ask. Here I am still having to explain it to you. And now you're telling me Chalmers will burst my bubbles? I really doubt if you understand anything about my bubbles either. But thanks for your concern. Clearly, you have my best interests at heart and that's real sweet.
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