[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

craigerb at comcast.net craigerb at comcast.net
Fri Dec 3 19:21:36 PST 2010


[Horse]
> The building of a house or group of houses would be a social pattern, as 
> per human social behaviour to stay
 > warm and protected - the building of 
> nests, as per avian behaviour is to provide a place to lay eggs etc.

[Craig, previously]
> Nope.  IMHO this misses Pirsig's insight into the social level.
> Just as a beehive or network of prairie dog burrows is not a social level pattern,
> building a house or group of houses is not a social pattern,
> even if done in co-operation with other humans.
> Nor is human behaviour to stay warm and protected social, rather than biological.
> Only the building of a social institution should count as social, e.g., ownership laws, legal liability, etc.

[Horse]
> As far as I'm aware bees and prairie dogs don't EMPLOY ARCHITECTS,
> obtain BUILDING PERMISSION, EMPLOY bricklayers, plumbers etc.
> Building a house or the construction of a housing estate here in the UK 
involves all of this
> and is part of a social pattern.

Which you'll recognize was MY point, as opposed to keeping warm & protected,
 which is biological & not social.
Craig


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