[MD] static value

[118]

Hi Marsha,

Yes, I agree.  In my view, understanding is a creative process.  There
is nothing fundamental to understand.  With the gift of
conceptualization, we can extrapolate or create analogies for other
things.  This does not make them any more real, it just brings them
into the fold.

Mark

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I'm not sure I can FULLY comprehend anything, let alone
> consciousness. I can watch bits and pieces of pattern
> pass through, and that demonstrates what they are not.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:48 PM, 118 wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> Yes, but the notion of levels is very easy to come to.  How is it that
>> we can create a single consciousness with this body that is made up of
>> lots of stuff?  It is quite possible that a consciousness exists at
>> the social level that we can never fully understand, just like the
>> cells of our body are not aware of our human consciousness.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:02 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> The whole area is interesting to me.  The level structure is, to my
>>> mind, an intellectual pattern.  How would a level outside the
>>> existing structure emerge?  It makes me dizzy, like trying to
>>> explain watching patterns flow through consciousness or having
>>> an unpatterned experience.   If a new level would play by
>>> different rules, then ???.  I have more questions than answers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:36 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> I am fine with your description or analogy.  My question was more
>>>> directed to what is required to create a new level, in general.  We
>>>> have divided up the expression of Quality into several levels.  What
>>>> creates the difference?
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly consider this a static value at this point, since we
>>>> are discussing a concept.  Of course the static value can change
>>>> dynamically.  And I don't want to get into that right now.
>>>>
>>>> That is the way I would pose the question.  You may have had a
>>>> different idea with your starting this post.  I can always change how
>>>> I respond.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:28 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:15 AM, 118 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A better question would be:  What is similar between all the divisions
>>>>>> in levels?  What is the specific criteria which divides them, not each
>>>>>> one, but in general?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be an interesting topic.  I always thought that what can be
>>>>> said of all patterns across all levels is that they are ever-changing,
>>>>> impermanent, interdependent, and conceptually constructed.  What
>>>>> do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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