[MD] Intellectual honesty

[John Carl]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi John
> I tend to speak my mind, if that's what you mean.
>
>

'course you do, Dan.  And that's a good thing.  What's interesting is what's
in your mind in the first place, to speak.

Like, I wouldn't think "fuck you very much" probably, so I wouldn't think to
speak it.

But that sort of blunt sawed-off shotgun style is partly what gives you
character.  So I'm certainly not complaining.

just, you know, commenting.


>
> If Robert Pirsig meant the intellectual level of the MOQ to be
> synonymous with SOM, he'd of said so outright. The conclusions the SOL
> lead to are illogical in the context of the MOQ. Period. And to
> repeatedly claim that Robert Pirsig REALLY meant to say SOL equals
> intellect is simply dishonest.
>
> Horse does a fantastic job, in my opinion. I can think of no one better.
>
>
So, ya had much experience with mailing list administrators?

Because I'm something of an aficianado, you know, and I like the differing
flavors you get from sampling.

In fact, I was an admin myself once.  Came about through an early
association with Nevada County Community Network, NCCN.NET, and a friendship
with those guys led to a co-located server and all the fun a guy could have
in the early days.  I even staked out a claim on likely domains back in the
day before the gold rush started, and internic was the only option with
their $70 per year registration fees.

my list started out being called "youthspace" but that was deemed lame (and
admittedly was) and evolved into something known as "the-collective".
Basically a bunch of teen-age linux heads, eager to get their grubby paws on
any server with root.  Turn 'em loose and watch 'em learn was my motto.
Worked good, too.  Those guys all have outstanding jobs today.

My first  mailing list experience, not of my own creation was called "the
thunderlizards"  A mac advocacy group inspired and created by a guy,
literally, 'guy kawasaki'.  I should google him, see what he's up to these
days.  Meeting people on that list led to lots of interesting experiences,
like attending a San Jose Expo where I saw the first prototype DVD and
learned a lot about CD Replication before burners were ubiquitous.

The next foray was a story-teller's forum, called  nerdnosh, headed up by
one Tim Bowden - a texan with a cattle drover's attitude when it came to
taking charge and roundin' em up and movin' em along.  I liked Tim.

So having spent the strenuous hours hand-sifting e-mail requests, I know
what a difficulty job it is, keeping a list going and all.

Just kidding.  Back in the day, it was a matter of clicking "yes" on some
redhat linux distro and talking people into signing on.  Not what I'd call a
big deal.  I can't imagine it's gotten a lot harder, in that most of the
open source solutions are constantly evolving easier ways to manage, what
with web-based admin interfaces and such.  I'm rusty, but if you're a guru,
it probably doesn't take as much time to administer as it does to
contribute, so while meaning no disrespect, I chuckle a bit at all the
gratitude showered upon Horse.

Especially from Platt.  That always cracks me up.




>
> Dan:
> I tend to think of intellect as just thinking. But I am just a simple man.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
Yeah?  me too.  And water's just a simple element.

Take Care, Dan.

John