[MD] the sophists

[Andre Broersen]

Bodvar to dmb, All:
OK, the students learned how to free their greater or lesser writing 
abilities, just as the mechanical finesse displayed by the author in 
ZAMM resulted in better motorcycles performance, yet this is writing and 
motorcycles. John Sutherland would never become a good mechanic and 
Pirsig no good musician regardless of lecturing.

Andre:
Is this all about dexterity then Bodvar? I thought it was more about 
learning to 'see'. I thought one of the great points in ZMM was that the 
real motorcycle you work on is yourself??? I think you miss that point 
completely by reducing the quality of Phaedrus' teaching to apply purely 
to motorcycle maintenance or musicianship or writing for that matter.You 
are separating writer from the writing, the mechanic from the motorcycle 
the musician from the music.The 'art' of the teaching lies in removing 
this (artificial) separation.

Bodvar:
To teach quality generally can only be done by teaching the MOQ.

Andre:
Oh dear, so all the bleeding hearts and artists and mystics...(and 
Sophists), all had advanced copies did they?