[MD] loopty-loop

[MarshaV]

Arlo,

I haven't finished the book, but it sounds very much like Hosftdater 
has the brain defined as a thing-in-itself.  He seems to be some kind 
of materialist.  But I could be wrong.  The rest of you post deals in 
baloney.  


Marsha



On May 31, 2010, at 5:14 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

> [Marsha]
> There was no indication that I applied anything like an evil label on
> Hofstadter.
> 
> [Arlo]
> No, that's Platt's big-bad academic nonsense, but Hosftadter is about as
> non-SOM as you can get. This is NOT Pirsig v. The World, by the way, there are
> others who's non-SOM ideas can help expand rationality the way Pirsig intended.
> 
> [Marsha]
> You might ask yourself where such nonsensical labeling is coming from.  It is
> your applied patterning, not mine.   
> 
> [Arlo]
> "SOM" has become a ridiculous dismissive technique by the SOL jockeys. This is
> so obvious it hardly merits mentioning, except that here the attempt is against
> someone whose un-SOM thinking could actually compliment Pirsig, strengthen his
> ideas, is subjected to this. Platt's bias, of course, comes from his attempt to
> theologize the MOQ, you, I think, are just blinded by staring at the one SOM
> tree and calling it the forest. You have extreme tunnel vision, and it does not
> serve you well.
> 
> 
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