[MD] re , Dan

Dan Glover daneglover at gmail.com
Sat Nov 6 21:32:30 PDT 2010


Hello everyone

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dan:
>
> After re-reading 2.2 and 2.3 of Anthony's PhD thesis (it is a really
> great source of information for anyone serious about the MOQ, just
> fantastic! Anyone not familiar with it should order it today.
> Definitely worth the price. It is available on Ant's website
> www.robertpirsig.org) it seems to me that Ant isn't forming a
> distinction between Quality and value so much as he is saying that
> some values cannot be quantified in the way others can be. It appears
> Robert Pirsig agrees when he says:
>
> Quality was adopted dynamically. The term itself had high Quality. I just
> felt ‘Quality’ had quality the way the students just ‘felt’ some student
> papers
> were better than others. I used to give the students the advice, ‘First you
> just
> “see” what has quality, then you figure out why. Don’t reverse the process,
> or
> you will get all confused.’ It is important to restate this now to avoid the
> perennial literary critics’ trap of thinking that the pivotal term
> quality is the
> result of some rational, analyzable process. (Pirsig, 1995b)
>
> Dan comments:
>
> I think this is what RMP means when he said that to teach writing,
> first teach pure quality. Let the student discover for themselves
> where quality is and then figure out why. If we try to figure out why
> first, confusion arises.
>
>
>Adrie:
> ---Incredibly important, i have to study this remarks and lead's, and also
> Andre's
> questions, and your reflections , Dan,..
> There are no other options i guess,..after all , the man is teaching
> quality, and it is recognised.--
> greetzz, Adrie
> Thanks for the appearance, ...not easy after beiing brutalised away by Mark.
> I will study this lines, Andre is moving up to the top of the pyramid.
> "attention"

Hi Adrie

Thank you for the reply. Yes, there are so many little gems of
knowledge scattered about concerning the MOQ, for those willing to
make the effort at picking them up. I don't think Mark realizes it,
but it's his loss. I don't care about the insults... I've been
insulted by the best... it is not going to scare me away. It's all
about the learning, and I learn something new every day. I think we're
alike in that regard.

You take care, my friend.

Dan



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