[MD] Betterness - 4 levels of!

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Hi Tim,
Any path must provide some kind of reasoning.  Any leading would result if
we agree with such reasoning.  So don't worry about that.  The purpose of
metaphysics is indeed to create a structure of understanding.  As Pirsig
rightly says, such structure cannot encompass the whole and may be
misleading to some.  The structure does provide something to discuss.  One
can enter into the world of spirituality where things must be felt rather
than objectivized.  Even such a path requires structure.  So, yes, words do
have a way of diminishing.  This is only true however, if the words are seen
as the object itself.  There are ways of describing a beautiful painting
which does not mean the painting is the words.  This is accepted.  The same
thing can be accepted in metaphysics.  Words are descriptions to convey a
personal understanding.  They cannot be more than that.  If such personal
understanding is agreed upon by many it becomes known as truth.  It is here
we must not go.

I fully understand Pirsig's difficulty with metaphysics.  Every
metaphysician recognizes this.  Keeping it simple is one solution, but that
has its limits in terms of growth and mainstreaming the concept.  Math is
just an adventure, it does not create reality but gives ways of conversing
about it.

> [Tim]
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> [Tim]
> Again, I am focusing on the HOW?  So yes, "how these two interact..."
> indeed!
>

[Mark]
One approach I have considered is to take Quality out of the equation.  In
physics this is also done when Reality is taken out of the equation.  For
example when describing the equality of energy and matter as Einstein does,
he is not concerned with reality, but only how energy and matter equate
within in it.  Einstein does not propose how energy becomes matter, he just
states that it is possible.

If we assume that dynamic and static quality are the same thing (Quality)
but interchange in appearance to us humans, a similar approach to Einstein's
could be envisioned.  That is, that there are equations that relate the two.
 These equations must be formed with concepts which are not as well defined
as energy or the speed of light squared (a constant), but can be done.  I am
still working on that based on what I read in these posts.  Perhaps I will
look like an idiot to others with my attempts.  So be it, I am willing to
take that chance just to get feedback.

Mark

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