[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Sun Nov 14 16:24:58 PST 2010


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> > Finally, we have the translation by Wallace, which he goes on to explain
> in
> > his own words.  As such, it is difficult to really know what Buddha was
> > thinking or trying to say.  Needless to say, translations such as found
> in
> > the Bible are to be expected since a philosophy or religion must be
> > pertinent to the vernacular or understanding of the time.  The underlying
> > awareness may remain constant, but the thoughts and words are always
> > changing.
> >
> > The use of emptiness is a good one.  The sole arising of emptiness can be
> > questioned and interpreted in its absoluteness.
> >
> > I know less than you,
>
> Marsha:
> There is nothing to know and no one to know it.  Who knows less?
>
> Within the radical experience, the meditative state, the direct NOW, there
> is
> no right, no wrong, no intellectual competence, no translations, no claims,
> no divine one, no opinion, no people, no preaching, no words, no
> interpretation,
> no philosophy, no religion too, no me, no you, and no Buddha.
>
> If you do not like B. Alan Wallace's words, that's okay.  I doubt that he
> will be
> upset, but I don't know for sure.
>
>
> [Mark]
>
It seems we have a different interpretation of knowing.  For me it is coming
to agreement with oneself as to the nature of things.  Often this come from
agreeing with others since two brains may provide more than one.  One can
know something and then change their minds and know something else.  Such is
the nature of man.

Your sense of knowing seems a bit more mystical and as such cannot really be
discussed.  What more is there to knowing than realizing and accepting?  I
am open to other definitions of knowing.  Mine takes places within the
brain, and is fed by that which lies behind and beyond.

I have not problem with Wallace.  It always takes me a while to warm to
someone.  This is my problem not his.

Hey, since you liked my last two music selections and seem to have an open
mind for these things.  A group that I have listened to for years is called
Rachels.  They have been in deep hibernation for a while now.  Their last 3
albums were good.  The Sea and The Bells was an interpretation of Naruda's
poems.  Some may be on youtube, I have the albums.  Stay away from their
collaboration with Matmos.  The song Water From the Same Source is one of
the more accessible of theirs.  Could be Yo-yo Ma, but it's not.  Check that
one out.

Mark

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