[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Nov 15 07:41:46 PST 2010


Greetings,

Why doesn't dmb start a thread of his own interest and lead a discussion?  He can do that at any time.  I don't see blaming people who may disagree with him for preventing him from moving forward.


Marsha  



On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [DMB quotes Pirsig]
> "I'm very pleased to know that Dr. Anthony McWatt and David Buchanan will be speaking at Oxford. They are the two foremost philosophers today on the Metaphysics of Quality and its implications for the guidance of humanity. General public understanding of this metaphysical system is still in its infancy and they deserve the careful, open-minded attention that early proponents of any idea need." (Robert Pirsig, October 2009)
> 
> [Arlo]
> Its good to hear that as recently as last year Pirsig was supporting your work and giving you the credit you deserve for your efforts. Largely, I'm sorry a lot of your effort and time is wasted here.
> 
> I continue to think a large part of the problem is that people do not want disagree with Pirsig, they want to twist Pirsig into agreeing with them. I suspect it has a lot to with the need for validation, and I suspect that a large part of the animosity you face is simply jealousy. One thing I constantly tell students I work is to never be afraid to disagree, but ensure your disagreement stands of solid reasoning. And the only way to form this foundation is by actually understanding what the author meant in the first place. In other words, to form disagreement with Pirsig one should be clear about what Pirsig has said. And I think its the efforts of you, Ant, Horse and Dan that continues to keep (or tries to keep) that on path (and David Granger, of course, whose book I recommend to anyone with a serious interest in Pirsig's philosophy).





 
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