[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

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Arlo:
...I think Marsha does this out of a effort to make intellect subservient to the 
aesthetic, the code of art, and I think in many ways draws back to the 
romantic/classic rift in ZMM. From what I can tell, rather than resolve the 
conflict via integration (as Pirsig does), Marsha demotes intellect to "classic 
rationality", and elevates "romantic understanding" to the "code of art". You, 
then, are the "classic rationalist", stuck in the cold, grey, lifeless world of 
analyses and relationships and parts and components, and she is the "romantic 
artist" (often an integration with Lila), and so her understanding must be 
deeper than yours. When I read her responses to you, this makes perfect sense. 
YOU don't get it because you are classic square, a shallow intellectual 
concerned with hierarchies and analysis, but SHE gets it because she is the 
romantic artist who drums and paints and posts poetry.

dmb says:
I see what you mean and it mostly works. But she was a big fan of Krimel's 
squareness and he always accused me of being a romantic. Stuff like that and the 
fact that I'm not as nice as you, I'd just say Marsha does what she can do make 
a virtue of air-headedness. 



Ron pokes his nose in:
Arlo, Dave,
To make the most of this conversation, because 
I feel it's important to point out the conflict in values between 
getting involved with philosophy with the aim to better understand our reasons
 for the values we hold contrasted with the value of using it for justification
of certain beliefs speaks alot about the person you are having the conversation
with and the way they are rationalizing.

In the spirit of keeping it fresh