[MD] reality

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

In  fact Wheeler is here pointing out towards William James's
pluralistic universe,and different reality's depending on the manner to
observe
the observed itself in relation to the observer and making the difference,
"observed by coincidence", "observed by triggering the event", or observed
in a mathematikal model(relative observation)¨¨[same value as absolute,
since
Einstein].

He rolls in Hawking's information paradox at the same time.
"Can one universe contain another, that contains more information?"
Is information a form of energy, and by implication,..matter?.

Btw , its not about inventing , Ian,its about recognising something, once it
is there
it will never leave again, it is impossible to destroy information.

Oops is never an argument.
greetz, Adrie


2010/11/25 Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>

> JC said "It's all software stupid".
>
> I've been there a long time .... quality is significant difference and
> significant difference is information ... everything builds from
> there. (The only people who don't buy it I find are those who see
> evolutionary emergence as "oops".)
>
> But it's not oops it's loops, strange, near-cyclical, level-shifting ones.
>
> A point that always gets me is if its right, who cares who "invented" it.
> Ian
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:10 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Adrie,  this reminded me of what I call my "zen-tech koan" - What is more
> > important?  The software?  Or the hardware?
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:39 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> in short, that all things physical are
> >> information-theoretic in origin and that this is a participatory
> universe.
> >>
> >>
> > The answer being, "it's all software stupid".  But usually, since
> explaining
> > how matter itself is "information-theoritic in origin" is the biggest
> > obstacle in explaining this to others, I'm sorta surprised at your
> posting
> > it here so clearly.
> >
> >  Since you get this, how can you can you not get  that Absolute Idealism
> has
> > been right all along?
> >
> > "Right, but ignored because of it" -  Should be a relatively simple thing
> > for a Pirsigian to grasp, I'd think.
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