[MD] Ah-ha Qua Ah-ha

[MarshaV]

On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:50 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Mark:
> It is very easy to put things into models, that is why I think we do so as
> humans.  Our brains are patterns and create patterns.  The endless cycle of
> creation and destruction or the cycle of birth and death are repetitive
> patterns.  It is hard to get away from them.  However, it is also possible
> to conceive of an endless series of non repeating patterns such as are
> created by numbers such as pi, or e, or the golden ratio.  These numbers
> never repeat, but go on endlessly.  However, they can be modeled.  I am
> modeling a thought with these words.

Marsha:
Exactly why I include ever-changing.  Patterns are ever-changing, 
interdependent and impermanent.   


> It is only human nature to model things, otherwise it may seem kind of
> meaningless, our thoughts are not random, at least how we define those
> things.  We like repeating motifs in music, or a repetitive drum beat (even
> children will dance to this).  We also like harmonics, the solar system is
> kind of a harmonic that we create with our math.  Temporary, is the theory,
> but who knows for sure. (Harmonics and Models, I haven't see that title yet,
> but I have never googled it.)  If the creation of models or repetition is so
> inherent, there must be something divine in it.  It is quite possible that
> we as humans are different from the rest of the universe, but I doubt it.
> What we create is what it is, no hidden reality since we are part (none of
> this mysterious pre-stuff).  What we express is the way things are, we are a
> part of the whole, not separate.  This is the Tao, we cannot isolate
> ourselves.
> 
> So, models or no models, we can view it either way, no models is a model in
> itself.  The endless cycle of reincarnation is a Buddhist model.  Suits me,
> but I don't care to escape from it.  Perhaps I am not suffering enough yet,
> still waiting for that Karma to catch up to me...  And again, there are many
> possible models we can think of....Quality anyone?

Marsha:
I'm sure they have meaning for you, but the above two paragraphs have no 
meaning for me.   


 
Marsha   






> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:19 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I do think of pattern as a process of repetition rather than
>> a thing-in-itself like a model.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
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