[MD] Trust in Philosophy

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Nov 29 12:41:59 PST 2010


Ian,

Of course I borrowed the paragraph from dmb's 
Re: [MD] Rorty and Mysticism post to Matt from 
November 27th.

   
Marsha 




On Nov 29, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Matt, Marsha,
> 
> I'm not sure I understand Marsha's immediate response, but I'd like to
> come back to this one Matt. (and your post about philosophy as
> abstraction and knowing when to put it down.)
> 
> Trust doesn't travel by email. Without trust there is no worthwhile debate.
> You and Dave (and a few others) need to be in the same room with a
> pint of beer (or a poker in hand, maybe, knowing when to put the poker
> down).
> 
> Ian
> 
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:12 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> 
>> If you have an instance where dmb directed such a paragraph
>> to you, I would definitely mark and save it.  I'd mark it as a measure
>> by which to judge his rhetoric in the future.  Measured by his own
>> standards, he can hardly continue his bullying.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone who cares about the social dynamics of philosophy,
>>> 
>>> Marsha said to Dave:
>>> As I see it I'm only asking you to say what you mean.   I'm telling you
>>> that I don't know what you mean ...  and I'm asking you to say what
>>> you mean in your own words.   I really don't see how the
>>> reasonableness of that request can be denied. I can speak english, I
>>> know the language of philosophy to some extent.  I really don't see
>>> why it should be a problem for you to make your ideas clear to me.
>>> You're angry because I'm asking you to say what you mean, because
>>> I'm asking you to define the terms you use?  Isn't that just the most
>>> basic demand placed on anyone who wishes to communicate about
>>> anything?  I think so. And your apparently refusal is more than a little
>>> suspicious. I mean, it's hard to believe that you're really trying.
>>> 
>>> Matt:
>>> Can I just say that if I had marked the above paragraph "DMB said to
>>> Matt:" people wouldn't have thought twice?  That Dave has been
>>> saying the same thing to me for years now?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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