[MD] Tea Bagging

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On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:02 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>wrote:

> [Mark]
> However, certain modes of teaching such as creationism are banned from the
> classroom.
>
> [Arlo]
> This kinda gets into another issue, to recap though, comparative mythology
> courses are in many high school curriculae, we have it here (it is an
> elective). So its not that "creationism" is not in "schools", is it, its
> that
> your "one true" creation myth isn't being taught in the science classroom.
>

[Mark in reply to the above]
I love comparative mythology, in that we agree.  Hallelujah and Amen.

>
> If your goal is for your kid to learn your creation myth, why do you look
> to
> the schools at all? Is this goal not better served by your particular
> church
> and by you? The schools do not teach many things, I can image the
> "flat-earthers" are annoyed that "flat earth theory" is not taught in the
> schools.
>
> In short, if YOU teach YOUR kid your particular "creationism", why is that
> not
> enough for you? Why do you demand that it be taught to MY kid?
>

[Mark in reply to the above]
I personally do not teach it, I was brought up in an non religious family, I
have never been to church in my life, would only go if I became single
again.  So the YOU does not quite fit.  Let's look at it this way,
Intelligent design does not require a God, but even that is despised by many
scientists and teachers. It seems that the only thing that is appropriate is
some nebulous randomness that progresses through chance.  Now, I have
nothing against Las Vegas, but you gotta stop gambling so much.

>
> [Mark]
> Science is as much a religion.  It is the profound indoctrination that
> makes it
> seem not.
>
> [Arlo]
> Right. Back in the 60's and 70's, the impetus of "religion" was to elevate
> itself to the status of "science". You had "clerics" going out to Mt.
> Ararat
> looking for archeological "proof" their stories were not stories but
> historical
> accounts.
>
> When this failed, since the 80s, the impetus is to "lower" science to the
> level
> of "religion". By making science, "just another religion", it would no
> longer
> be able to hold special dominance over "the Word". "Evolution" became "just
> another story" one can easily supplant with "Genesis".+
>

[Mark in reply]
It is you that is elevating science to the status of religion.  How many
times do I have to say this for it to sink in.  Take a deep breath and stop
reacting.  You cannot prove or disprove religion with science, just like you
cannot prove or disprove science with religion.  The attempts to do so are
simply political, trying to lead a following, by both sides.  Your leaders
have a lot invested in you following them.

>
> [Mark's reply]
> I do not think we have a problem with ignoring [racism], just misusing.
>
> [Arlo]
> I see and hear everyday racism. Just the other week I was watching the
> football
> game and someone in the bar said "when is Paterno gonna drop his little pet
> nigger?"... Most people laughed. We shouldn't pretend racism does not
> exist,
> that it is not a problem, and that it needs to be addressed. Perhaps
> current
> modes of response have proven weak, but we can't ignore it either.
>

[Mark in reply]
Sorry if that hurt your feelings.  You do not have to watch those shows,
your choice.  I am not saying that it is not something that needs to be
addressed.  We are bending over backwards to do so.  Perhaps not enough for
you, but be patient.  Things grow on their own, we can only protect them.
 We cannot pull them out of the ground.  You many say that a strong offense
is a good defense, but it could also backfire.  If the House shifts
dramatically, you only have yourself to blame.  The farther you lift the
pendulum, the farther it swings in the other direction.  It is simple
physics.

>
> [Mark]
> You are also sqwualking typical talk-radio soundbites, so what?
>
> [Arlo]
> Such as? Talking about interracial marriage?
>

[Mark]
No, those which you hear and mimic in your posts (MSNBC, NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS,
and others).  If you do not listen to those, then you are very isolated
indeed.  Let's go for a motorcycle ride across the country and meet people.
 I will do my best to protect you.

>
> [Mark]
> Typically I am very direct and do not resort to PC.  Of course if I am in
> an
> interview with a retard, I will not mention it.
>
> [Arlo]
> Why? If "PC" is such a great evil, why don't you call him to his face what
> you
> call him behind his back? Coward?
>

[Mark in reply]
Yes, sometimes I have to lean forward to get a job.  It's a humbling
experience which only does me good.  I have not said that PC is such a great
evil, don't get hyperbolic on me.  Tending towards extremes is just plain
silly, you retard.

Cheers,
Mark

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