[MD] Bitterkeit und Besskeiten

[MarshaV]

Hi Ron,  

Yes, I have heard it's the later thinking that is significant.  I'd like to start with a 
biography which maybe includes the evolution of his philosophy before I attempt  
Tractatus.  But I read 'Thus Spake Zarathustra', twice, so don't put it past me to give 
it a try.   

Yes, interesting stuff.  




On May 13, 2011, at 9:23 AM, X Acto wrote:

> Marsha,
> 'Tractatus Logico-Philosphophicus' is tedious, mostly analytical and logical.
> 
> His later work and ideas seem to be more in line with what you are interested in
> "Philosophical Investigations"
> 
> "For a large class of cases — though not for all — in which we employ the word 
> ‘meaning’
> it can be defined thus: the meaning of a word is its use in the language" (PI 
> 43).
> 
> Pirsig would differ in that the meaning of a word is it's use in experience.
> 
> interesting stuff.
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
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> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 9:04:03 AM
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> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> I've only read a limited amount on what he might have meant, accompanied 
> by some very interesting quotes.  He was describe as a skeptic, and one 
> interested in the limitations of language.  His name has been mentioned with 
> that of Sextus Empiricus.  I am looking for a book, a good introduction, to 
> his philosophical ideas.  If someone could suggest one for a wiggly to read,
> I would be appreciative.  
> 
> 
> Marsha 
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> On May 13, 2011, at 8:47 AM, X Acto wrote:
> 
>> Yes, language is a means to an end, .....understanding.
>> 
>> a useful tool.
>> 
>> An explanation.
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>> I dont think he meant all language shoud be thrown away
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 8:23:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Bitterkeit und Besskeiten
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>> 
>> "My propositions are elucidatory in this way: he who understands me finally 
>> recognizes them as senseless, when he has climbed out through them, on them, 
>> over them. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up 
> 
>> on it.)" 
>> 
>> 
>>   (Wittgenstein, Ludwig, 'Tractatus Logico-Philosphophicus', 6.54)
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