[MD] a flimsy canopy of patterns

[MarshaV]

Joe,

Secure?  Good luck with that project...  


Marsha 


On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi MarshaV and All,
> 
> I can't relate to a bottomless craving.  IMHO In DQ/SQ metaphysics the
> indefinable is present.  For variety Evolution in existence seems a more
> secure approach than thirst.  I can experience the indefinable.
> Communicating that experience follows the metaphysical structure of DQ/SQ.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 12/19/12 9:14 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Suffering
>> 
>> ---
>> "What Is the Cause of Social Dukkha?
>> 
>> "According to Shakyamuni, the cause of our suffering is _tanha_, usually
>> translated as "craving" but more literally as "thirst."  Nothing we drink can
>> ever assuage our tanha, because that thirst is due to an emptiness at the core
>> of our being.  It is as if that core were a bottomless pit, something like the
>> black hole that astronomers believe lie at the center of most galaxies.  No
>> matter how much we try to fill up our own black hole with this or that,
>> everything is swallowed up and disappears into it.
>> 
>> "It is bottomless because our sense of self is an ungroundable construct.
>> Notice, however, the second noble truth does not identify our problem as
>> groundlessness.  The problem is "thirst". --- not the emptiness at the core of
>> our being but our incessant efforts to fill that hole up, because we
>> _experience_ it as a sense of lack that must be filled up.  The problem is not
>> that I am unreal but that I keep trying to make myself real in ways that never
>> work.  This implies there might be another way to experience  our
>> groundlessness."
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