[MD] a flimsy canopy of patterns
jhmau at comcast.net
Thu Dec 20 12:28:03 PST 2012
Hi MarshaV and All,
My reactions are to SOM, a duality in existence. DQ is indefinable and
DQ/SQ cannot be considered a duality in existence but rather a modality of
existence, indefinable/definable. This opens the door to evolution as
levels in existence giving a structure to the modality, evolution, without
violating DQ/SQ metaphysics. DQ is indefinable not non-existent.
On 12/19/12 11:36 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> Secure? Good luck with that project...
> On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Joseph Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>> I can't relate to a bottomless craving. IMHO In DQ/SQ metaphysics the
>> indefinable is present. For variety Evolution in existence seems a more
>> secure approach than thirst. I can experience the indefinable.
>> Communicating that experience follows the metaphysical structure of DQ/SQ.
>> On 12/19/12 9:14 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> "What Is the Cause of Social Dukkha?
>>> "According to Shakyamuni, the cause of our suffering is _tanha_, usually
>>> translated as "craving" but more literally as "thirst." Nothing we drink
>>> ever assuage our tanha, because that thirst is due to an emptiness at the
>>> of our being. It is as if that core were a bottomless pit, something like
>>> black hole that astronomers believe lie at the center of most galaxies. No
>>> matter how much we try to fill up our own black hole with this or that,
>>> everything is swallowed up and disappears into it.
>>> "It is bottomless because our sense of self is an ungroundable construct.
>>> Notice, however, the second noble truth does not identify our problem as
>>> groundlessness. The problem is "thirst". --- not the emptiness at the core
>>> our being but our incessant efforts to fill that hole up, because we
>>> _experience_ it as a sense of lack that must be filled up. The problem is
>>> that I am unreal but that I keep trying to make myself real in ways that
>>> work. This implies there might be another way to experience our
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