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Marsha,
Yes, but that was just an analogy.  Where do you find the meaning?
Mark

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:33 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> Mark,
>
> The last time that I checked, meaningless was not included in the
> definition of analogy.
>
>
> Marsha
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> On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:51 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Now Marsha, my dear,
> >
> > I have no intention of wiping out everyone else's.  Multiple realities
> can
> > all exist side by side.  All I present are my views of reality through
> the
> > paradigm of Quality.
> >
> > If everything is analogy, then the word analogy has no meaning, since
> > everything being analogy is just an analogy.  Like a snake eating its own
> > tail it is a hopeless paradox which I do not think gets anywhere.
>  Perhaps
> > that is the purpose, not to get anywhere.  Like dancing on a dance floor,
> > there is nowhere to go.  Pretty existentialist, I might add.  That all is
> > analogy is at the core of Existentialism.  Meaning has no meaning, as it
> > were.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sure Mark, as you wipe out everyone else's.   It's all analogy, every
> last
> >> bit of it, even yours.  Don't you just love the dance?
> >>
> >> I take going into the mind to mean introspection (meditation), where one
> >> actually watches thoughts come and go.  One gets to see firsthand the
> >> nature of the little static tyrants.   If you're needing a quote to
> justify
> >> the practice from a MoQ perspective:
> >>
> >> Mark:
> > I wouldn't call them tyrants unless one is sufferring. Buddhism assumes
> > that people are sufferring and want to escape.  I guess Buddhism works
> for
> > those people.  There are plenty of ways to escape though.  If you are
> > sufferring, try Buddhism first, then maybe an aspirin.
> >
> > Meditation is setting your thoughts free.  They do not belong to you,
> they
> > cannot affect you.  They are just thoughts that your brain creates.  Just
> > ignore them, there are more important things.
> >
> >
> >> "The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from
> experience
> >> but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing,
> >> static, intellectual attachments of the past. "
> >>          (LILA, Chapter 9)
> >>
> >> And no, and I cannot turn my awareness towards the watcher so I will not
> >> speculate in that direction.
> >>
> >> Mark:
> > I suppose Pirsig knows a lot about mystic meditation, so he can be an
> > expert on that subject.  I believe every word he utters on the subject of
> > mystic meditation; he is a world renouned mystic, rated in the top ten of
> > mystics of all times.  He writes often of his mystical experiences in
> > several journals, and is invited to speak often on the subject of mystic
> > meditation.  I would dare say that he has a black belt in mystic
> meditation.
> >
> > Now that I have read the quote, I can't help but believe that mystic
> > meditation is exactly as he puts it.  I would never have guessed that the
> > Truth could be so simple.  Thank you so much for that enlightenment, and
> > let me know something else that Pirsig has written, to guide me along.
> > I'll find a quote in Lila about something else, that you must believe,
> > because Pirsig wrote it.  You can thank me then!
> >
> > ha, ha, ha, another rogue wave!  What power I have!  I am God!
> > Mark
> >
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