[MD] Why does Pirsig write everybody's right about mind and matter although his theses imply the opposite?

david dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 28 12:47:12 PDT 2016




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Tuukka said to dmb:

Classical logic wasn't invented by me, therefore it's not "mine". Either classical logic is a misconception in the first place or I
haven't applied it correctly. But you don't examine my argument to check whether it's correct. [...] Quality doesn't reject logic. What in the MOQ does?


dmb says:

Logic? I haven't yet offered any criticism of your logic. But since you mentioned it, I'll point out that discerning the logical relation between terms depends upon a proper understanding those terms. I'm offering a criticism about your understanding of the terms, of the words and concepts you're using.


Tuukka asked:
If logic is psychical how can pure experience logically precede subject and object? After all, logic doesn't exist at the stage where
this precession should take place.



dmb says:

As odd or paradoxical as it may sound, pure experience not only logically precedes subjects and objects, it also logically precedes logic. The strangeness of this claim evaporates when you see that having an experience is one thing but talking about it or reflecting on it is a different thing.

But this is not really related to the criticism I was offering either. Let me know if you're interested in that.

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